Gtr Joey's R32 Gtr E-Flex, Twinscroll 83/75 Results

[r32-25t]

Nope Gtr should have twins otherwise it's a gts4

[XKLABA]

Sorry Paul I can't remember Matts setup but unless the -5s where setup properly with all the right breathing mods then that is a miss leading result as the single would have custom manifold, custom intake, custom dump and front pipe that are purely designed to make that turbo work to its most effective efficiency

So unless the same was done for the -5s its not a fair comparison

Arh yes Micko, but in your opinion the lancer is a mans car too lol

[Sub Boy32]

Take matty from WA's experience. Twin -5's on a 3.0 and went to a 8374/0.92 internally gate single. The EFR was back to peak boost levels in a 1/3rd of the time the twins took (Motec logs), made more power everywhere also.

However, it would be interesting to compare something like the 8374 EFR to say twin 6258 EFR's.

Is there any graphs of this car, would be interesting to compare to mine.

[Marko R1]

Nope Gtr should have twins otherwise it's a gts4

I agree 100%

[Sub Boy32]

I agree 100%

So it should be slow then?

[XKLABA]

That single turbos and GTS-4s are slow, yeah I'd have to agree with that

[Sub Boy32]

Meh...you can keep your laggy twins

[XKLABA]

Meh... Come for a run in either of my laggy twins a see what lag isn't

[Sub Boy32]

Meh... Come for a run in either of my laggy twins a see what lag isn't

Do you have a build thread or dyno/boost sheets?

I'd be reasonably confident I would see full boost earlier than a 600whp pair of low mount twins

[XKLABA]

I do, in the RB30 dyno thread, but the RPM scale isn't correct and like I said earlier, dynos lie or/and can be made to lie, you want a true idea/indecation of response look at ET v MPH

This is way I go to the drags after I do a mod cause

ET is a good indication of setup

MPH is good indication of power to weight

ET v MPH is a good indication of response

And while all three will effect each other, when looked at each individually you get a good idea of it

Edit, Scott also said it shows it ramp up later then reality cause he had to do something about it spinning all 4 on the dyno, I'm not sure what he did just he said it is slower to show ramping up

[Mick_o]

Sorry Paul I can't remember Matts setup but unless the -5s where setup properly with all the right breathing mods then that is a miss leading result as the single would have custom manifold, custom intake, custom dump and front pipe that are purely designed to make that turbo work to its most effective efficiency

So unless the same was done for the -5s its not a fair comparison

Arh yes Micko, but in your opinion the lancer is a mans car too lol

Hahaha i remember a certain somebody getting out of my "mans car" giggling like a little school girl after he'd driven it with the stock turbo and a dodgy E85 choon so it couldn't of been that bad?

The 2.6L 8374 equipped missle i went in today certainly sealed the deal with everybody that went in it.. Including some pretty hardcore #twinturboGTR4lyf mofos! They even buried the notion of needing 2 turbos for response in this wonderful age of lightweight billet materials and black magic aerodynamics that make 1 turbocharger enough to tear ya face off from 4000rpm to redline (in 2nd gear) from a 800hp turbo

Once you have been enlightened Micky the possibilities are endless

While i can see you have a "purist approach" to your GTR's (which i respect) as every GTR I have been in and driven has been a twin turbo from Jez's car to piggaz car to my dads car!

Which have all been amazing dont get me wrong!

But remove that lil pipe that says twin turbo and it moves you into this marvelous era of modern day turbochargers

Drive 1 and be enlightened in 2015 mate

[GTR_JOEY]

Hahaha i remember a certain somebody getting out of my "mans car" giggling like a little school girl after he'd driven it with the stock turbo and a dodgy E85 choon so it couldn't of been that bad?

The 2.6L 8374 equipped missle i went in today certainly sealed the deal with everybody that went in it.. Including some pretty hardcore #twinturboGTR4lyf mofos! They even buried the notion of needing 2 turbos for response in this wonderful age of lightweight billet materials and black magic aerodynamics that make 1 turbocharger enough to tear ya face off from 4000rpm to redline (in 2nd gear) from a 800hp turbo

Once you have been enlightened Micky the possibilities are endless

While i can see you have a "purist approach" to your GTR's (which i respect) as every GTR I have been in and driven has been a twin turbo from Jez's car to piggaz car to my dads car!

Which have all been amazing dont get me wrong!

But remove that lil pipe that says twin turbo and it moves you into this marvelous era of modern day turbochargers

Drive 1 and be enlightened in 2015 mate

Like x1000

[Juan_2_3]

when does a single take over from twins??? for example -5s are a 350kw+ turbo so i assume beyond 350kw single would better due to the later technology in todays turbos.

[GTR_JOEY]

If your not making around 400rwkw with -5s then you have the wrong set up.

Id say anything over 400rwkw is worth swapping to a single set up

[XKLABA]

Hahaha i remember a certain somebody getting out of my "mans car" giggling like a little school girl after he'd driven it with the stock turbo and a dodgy E85 choon so it couldn't of been that bad?

The 2.6L 8374 equipped missle i went in today certainly sealed the deal with everybody that went in it.. Including some pretty hardcore #twinturboGTR4lyf mofos! They even buried the notion of needing 2 turbos for response in this wonderful age of lightweight billet materials and black magic aerodynamics that make 1 turbocharger enough to tear ya face off from 4000rpm to redline (in 2nd gear) from a 800hp turbo

Once you have been enlightened Micky the possibilities are endless

While i can see you have a "purist approach" to your GTR's (which i respect) as every GTR I have been in and driven has been a twin turbo from Jez's car to piggaz car to my dads car!

Which have all been amazing dont get me wrong!

But remove that lil pipe that says twin turbo and it moves you into this marvelous era of modern day turbochargers

Drive 1 and be enlightened in 2015 mate

Lol, the difference between a girls car and a mans car is a girls car leave you giggling like a school girl and mans car make you stand infront of it scared to unlock it, my old turboed Corolla always left me giggling when I would punch it

I have said this for quite a while now, the big singles have the tech edge ATM and its doubtfull someone will make direct bolton twins for the RB26 setups, though a set of 6258s in direct bolt on would be nice on a 3.0, my theory of tech for tech twins are better still remains and always will cause I have seen it first hand

[Piggaz]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=fPjVAVQMCcI

I wouldn't call that laggy between gears.

[Piggaz]

Sorry Paul I can't remember Matts setup but unless the -5s where setup properly with all the right breathing mods then that is a miss leading result as the single would have custom manifold, custom intake, custom dump and front pipe that are purely designed to make that turbo work to its most effective efficiency

So unless the same was done for the -5s its not a fair comparison

Arh yes Micko, but in your opinion the lancer is a mans car too lol

What can you do to that setup to optimise it?

The stock manifolds are fine, we both use them, I believe it ran pods as it was a 32. The exhaust wasn't small. It's pretty much a no expense spared car.

It was simply take the -5's off and put the EFR on. Belts it every way possible. Low end grunt, too end power, comes on earlier and back on sooner between gears.

If you could do a back to back between twin EFR's and the single to see the difference, I think that would be interesting but comparing it to what realistically is dinosaur twins (-9's,-5's,2530's,RS's, the trust things) the EFR would belt the shit out of them. This car that I went in yesterday was cracking gates at 4200 on a nugget 2.6 in second gear. -9's wouldn't do that yet the 8374 would supply Atleast another 100 kw of grunt. Between gear, forget it. It was like the gates shut at all. As soon as the clutch was let back out, it was making a anti social noise again.

[r32-25t]

Twins for an rb26 are stuck in 10yr old technology and always will be! For the simple fact no aftermarket suppliers care about them anymore as the engine isnt being produced anymore and never will be.

All of their r&d is being thrown at cars like the r35, evoX (for now), new wrx and of corse universal singles as that will always be their biggest market due to the fact they can be made to fit everything.

But my Gtr will always be twin turbo even knowing the turbos are old tech and getting older every year, but I also have plans to try and bring them closer to this new technology and if it works should be a great kit, if not......well at least I tried something different

[Marko R1]

I wouldn't call that laggy between gears.

Very Nice. What is the setup? Looks like it might be you driving your car? Great commentary btw

[Marko R1]

R35 seems to do ok on twins

Different configuration being a v6, although, if the single really is leaps ahead of a twin setup...I wonder if there will be a single kit for the mighty 35? I doubt it hehe