Stagea Wont Turn Over

[dumpit]

hey guys, was driving the stag yesterday and the motor just died so i pulled over and attempted to start the car again but no love. I know its not the battery as all lights are on and car just wont crank over. Could the coils have lost their spark or it couldnt happen to all of them all at once? If its the crank angle sensor what symptoms are shown?

Car is a c34 auto with nistune, ss2 turbo and other basic mods. Engine light was showing but always comes on when its hot or at night but speedo also dies after a while its left in drive. When that happens i chuck it in tip tronic and the light disappears and speedo comes back on.

What other gremlins may have caused this?

[KiwiRS4T]

What do you mean by "won't crank over"? Nothing happens when you turn the key? Can you hear the solenoid click when you turn the key? Check the battery terminals for tightness and cleanlines. Check the earth strap. Check the lead down to the starter motor. Use a test light to check the main fuses in the engine bay. Ignition switches sometimes pack up. Won't be the coils or CAS if the engine won't even turn over.

[dumpit]

yeah its not the battery as all dash lights are on it just wont turn over. Will check the ignition and main fuses cheers

[KiwiRS4T]

Don't say its not the battery - needs 300 amps to turn over so check connections and try a jump start before you rule it out.

[GTR260]

Yeah ur battery may have a dead or dry cell, this will cause it to have enough power to run ur lights stereo wipers ect but not enough to start it! I had a simmilar problem recently with my wifes 2010 fiesta, took the battery to battery world had it tested, bought a new one put it in and problem solved

[BMX666]

+1 for battery connections.

I had a similar issue. Drive to the shops, all good. Came out and went to start the car, nothing. Had all dash lights, stereo, wipers, the works but could only get a click from the engine. After doing some impressive carpark machanics and removing the starter motor to check it wasn't seized or something stupid then fitting it again managed to get it started by short starting it with a jumper lead. Straight to an auto elec who proceeded to do the the most basic thing, check the simple shit first!! Turned out it was I dodgy connection where the terminal clamps onto the cable.

Check the battery connections or try a new battery.

[dumpit]

My mechanic has told me it was the CAS, will find out tomorrow for sure. It wasnt the battery because it just died while i was driving, i wasnt parked. i did check the connection for the battery and no issue

[KiwiRS4T]

If nothing happens when you turn the key it won't be the CAS. Get a new mechanic.

[wolverine]

I had a battery shit itself while driving.

[GTR260]

If nothing happens when you turn the key it won't be the CAS. Get a new mechanic.

^^^

This

[dumpit]

lol, we tried a new battery and same thing still wouldnt start. Now we are looking for a auto electrician to look over the car but as soon as people hear that its a stagea nobody wants a piece of it. Anyone know of a mobile auto electrician based in sydney that knows a thing about stageas?

[GTR260]

Ok let's get this clear, does the engine wind over & not start or won't wind over ?????

If it won't wind over can u crank it over by hand? It may have a broken timing belt n bent valves

Edited December 5, 2012 by GTR260

[Jezboosted]

The biggest issue is - Is this now a new problem ontop of check engine light and speedo dropping off, or somehow a part of it.

When did the CEL and speedo issue start to occur ? After fixing something/replacing something ? Nistune ?

And with no disrespect, lets be very clear on what happens when you start.

Red lights on ACC - YES/NO

Fuel Pump prime on IGN - YES/NO

Starter motor click when starting - YES/NO

Engine rotates when starting - YES/NO

When starting it's misfiring/spluttering and won't run - YES/NO

Diesel was substituted for Petrol - YES/NO

[dumpit]

engine winds over but will not start.

Lol diesel. Actually the engine light problem came on 5 hours after i bought the car which is over 2 years ago and comes and goes here and there. When i did get the nistune toshi told me i had a faulty speedo sensor and my 02 sensor was basically dead. Apart from that the car has never given me any issues.

oh and yes red lights on acc fuel pump primes on ign, starter motor clicks when trying to start

[Jezboosted]

ok, so the engine does rotate when starting, but doesn't fire up.

Do a basic spark test

Remove #1 coil pack from engine and connect to a spark plug (leave coil pack wires connected).

Rest the spark plug on an earthed part of car (engine). Attempt to start the car and have a friend look at spark plug for spark. User camera if no friend to be found.

The link below will have pics/info on what to remove to get to spark plugs in case you didn't already know ! Pics are further down in a jumbled order.

http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/topic/42819-rb25det-changing-the-spark-plugs/

[dumpit]

Thanks man, will give that a go tomorrow

[Dahtone Racing]

If you come up with nothing after that shoot me a PM.

[Jezboosted]

Thanks man, will give that a go tomorrow

Hey, curious to see if this has been resolved ?

[Springsteen]

^^ starter clicks?? Thats a current delivery issue. At a first guess with a problem like this....

AFM? They have been known to shut you down if theres a bad connection. If you dose it you can stall / break it.

My advice is buy a multimeter and get some data.

[dumpit]

Nothing yet, had 5 different auto electricians come to my mechanic and none of them know, dont wanna know since its an import. Been to busy at work to chase this up christmas rush is killing us. Only update now is engine light wont turn on fuel tank doesnt prime so no spark at all. Gonna do a search now for stagea electric info and english version for the fuse box.