Want To Get 'fit'... Read This First

[NickR33]

one of the best general fitness articles I've ever read, by one of the premier strength and conditioning coaches in the world

I could've posted it in the Gym thread but it is too good to be buried there

http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/most_recent/conditioning_is_a_sham

[Trozzle]

TL;DR

Who the f**k is this Mark Rippleton anyway?

[Birds]

Prolly some guy who's only lifted once.

[TTT]

Cliffs:

Squat, Bench and deadlift and stop doing shit cardio work you blardy poofta.

[NickR33]

TL;DR

lol

too busy calculating your macros?

Edited December 12, 2012 by NickR33

[Trozzle]

Hahaha I was kidding! I know exactly who he is...I just didn't have time to read it before I left work. Will read once I'm home

[The Bogan]

one of the best general fitness articles I've ever read, by one of the premier strength and conditioning coaches in the world

I could've posted it in the Gym thread but it is too good to be buried there

http://www.t-nation....oning_is_a_sham

Where does he get his information from or is it based on military/EMS training from the 80"s, to me it sounded more like he was selling weight training.

To be fit to fight you also need to be fit, no point in being able to lift a bus if you cannot catch it, we train in a variety of ways, body weight, bar and dumdbells, kettle bells, power lifts, HITT, volume, cardio, we do specific lifts, load carry training for most equipment used.

Ive trained with yanks as well and their training is very simular to ours

This guys research is weak.

[Husky33]

It is based more on first time trainers and people with non specific goals though. I also disagree with the part in regards to military:

The unanimous view of all these people is that their strength has a pivotal bearing on their ability to function in the toughest situations they encounter, and that endurance plays a much smaller, if not insignificant, role in any modern shitstorm.

Endurance is much more important than strength in a military environment, especially in a shitstorm

[NickR33]

Hahaha I was kidding! I know exactly who he is...I just didn't have time to read it before I left work. Will read once I'm home

yeah I know, was just yankin ya chain

[NickR33]

Where does he get his information from or is it based on military/EMS training from the 80"s, to me it sounded more like he was selling weight training.

To be fit to fight you also need to be fit, no point in being able to lift a bus if you cannot catch it, we train in a variety of ways, body weight, bar and dumdbells, kettle bells, power lifts, HITT, volume, cardio, we do specific lifts, load carry training for most equipment used.

Ive trained with yanks as well and their training is very simular to ours

This guys research is weak.

did you actually read the article or just skim it for the bit you disagreed with?

he is talking about novices increasing their general strength before trying to work on conditioning... it is aimed at beginners and the average joe looking to get 'in shape'

I have no idea about military training practices... but let's not allow it to cloud the important point

increasing strength also increases conditioning

[NickR33]

It is based more on first time trainers and people with non specific goals though.

that's why I posted it with the thread title

[The Bogan]

did you actually read the article or just skim it for the bit you disagreed with?

he is talking about novices increasing their general strength before trying to work on conditioning... it is aimed at beginners and the average joe looking to get 'in shape'

I have no idea about military training practices... but let's not allow it to cloud the important point

increasing strength also increases conditioning

Yes I read the whole article, this style of training has been going on for years, I was doing the cross fit training and introduced to power lifts when I first enlisted over 10 yrs ago.

The the sphincter of the universe writting the article kept bringing up the military, did you read the whole article ?

I was saying his research is flawed as he is writing about his "new and improved training" which isnt new or improved, other people have done the hard work and research and he is just writting about it, albeit 10 years to late it seems..

[NickR33]

okay mate... thanks for your input... I understand you know all about this style of training (everyone who has posted here does)... however many people looking to get fit/in shape/lose weight do not... that is why I posted it here... it's for their benefit

[The Bogan]

http://www.crossfit.com/

[Dani Boi]

[NickR33]

this is going to end well lol

[The Bogan]

Mine is always sore, your point is ?

[GTR_JOEY]

I agree with the part where it states cardio vascular is alot easier to develope in the short term compared to strength training, I also agree that the "3 big lifts" are very usful when someone is first starting out trying to build strength.. (not that this is anything new by the way)

Though he is very "strenght bias" and discards the importance of endurance too quickly

Lifting weights is good conditioning if.... you wanna lift more weights. To me, this is definatly not the most efficent or best way to have good overall conditioning

When he talks about professions such as being a soldier/policeman/or firefighter, i think he has missed the mark a bit

I honestly dont think you can prepare yourself properly for being a police officer or fire fighter by just pumping weights, and i definatly know that you cant to be soldier, especially in a combat situation. Dont get me wrong strength definatly helps but you gotta be damn fit if you wanna survive a real life fire fight...

i personally havent been in a "real" fire fight, but i can say that even by the end of a practice one....i would have rather run 5km

[jangles]

Good article for the people it's aimed at.

Pretty much everyone 'new' to it wants to get 'fit' by running on a tready.

It's true unless you're an athlete. I know personally that I used to get loss of breath on the court @around 7 mins

Also could only run 3km with fast walking (resting)prob 5-700m of that.

3 months of lifting only was enough to stay 40min on court and not feel the need to sub off.

Same 3km was easy.

Edit: social roster bball, no practice.

Edited December 12, 2012 by jangles

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