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[caminperth]

@ Adrian...

[2rismo]

[skyzerr33]

What about a program or segment showing the jobs the car scene has created, the way it gives kids something of interest and keep them away from other (far more serious) crime, the good things that people are involved in like the ever increasing drift circuit, the MC series etc?

Its definately about time that people put there heads together and gave some sort of co-ordinated response to this sensationalist non-sense before we are all banned from driving anything over 600cc.

only problem is the current affairs type show would then twist ur story make car/bike enthusiats be a bunch of drug dealers and chop shop owners etc..

[Boostzor]

Tonight, on yesterdays story today - Hoons delivering drugs to your kids at high speed!!!

[twowheels]

Tonight, on yesterdays story today - Hoons delivering drugs to your kids at high speed!!!

Now that would make for an interesting story

Can't fit many drugs into a bike boot though

[Mikeru_r33]

What about a program or segment showing the jobs the car scene has created, the way it gives kids something of interest and keep them away from other (far more serious) crime, the good things that people are involved in like the ever increasing drift circuit, the MC series etc?

Its definately about time that people put there heads together and gave some sort of co-ordinated response to this sensationalist non-sense before we are all banned from driving anything over 600cc.

Its an interesting idea. I think a radio doco for JJJ might be a place to start, they are more accepting then other outlets. Interviews with import enthusiasts, drifters, modders, SAUWA types and people on a cruise, plus lots of great sounds of BOVs, drifts etc. A piece about the culture, how it fits into society and what it means to the lives of the people involved.

The good thing about radio is that no faces .

[C-Red]

I've got no dramas with those PE guys or the NE guys, they were all pretty good, and on high end equipment. Just another slop for the cops white trash tv beat up. Must have been light on for miracle diets for fat slags and morons coplaining about 10k mobile bills.

Speaking of dumb things on video, is that "Street Racer" video coming out? I couldnt believe the stupidity of putting such behaviour out for public consumption. Will be enough reason for another blitz on modified cars...

Jash

[25GTT]

Well said Jash, was thinking the same thing is this the ideal time to be putting out a video such as that? perhaps if it were in a controlled environment then perhaps wouldn't be soo bad however due to the whole crack down and media coverage perhaps now is not the best time.....

[tigeryas]

only problem is the current affairs type show would then twist ur story make car/bike enthusiats be a bunch of drug dealers and chop shop owners etc..

yeah they tend to do that with those stories... its always biased in some way...

we don't all speed crazily, and nearly most of the time everyone just goes from 0 to 60-70 in like, 1-2 seconds and then cruise it at 70 the rest of the way. That isn't speeding is it? Unless u get done for some other offence, like dangerous or reckless driving

But the TV Stations always portray us as ALWAYS speeding... and I dont even speed most of the time...

And thats my two cents... that'll take care of some SOBs... *Yas in trouble* What the!?

[JXL]

I wonder if there is any case for a defamation/discrimination charge of some sort against the tv station as it sounds like the story was deliberately trying to be provocative...

hmmm....

Be interesting if we could make a doco on this and say that because of a vocal ignorant minority the majority of enthusiats get screwed over.

It has to be defamation cause they are generalizing the majority.

[Boostzor]

Is this "Street Racer" vid the one that was being played behind the C-red stand at the Motorshow? I saw a few stupid things as i walked past, at some stage i saw a guy trying in vain to smash a bottle over his head. I can see how that is not going to help the cause any.

[SRP]

just to let u guys know i am having the video classified as we speak and having a solicitor go over the movie and get it all legal and have some documents made up to cover everyones arse....also im n ot showuing anything on a website for the eact reasons mentioned above

[C-Red]

SRP,

My issue with your video was the taping and exhibition of the sort of dumb shit that idiots like Grant Dorrington think we all do all the time. Doesnt paint you guys in the best light, although neither does the whole "Street Racer" tag. Everyone engages in that sort of behaviour at one time or another, be it in a controlled environment, or on the road, but to whack it on a video for public consumption is doing nothing for enthusiasts and the industry as a whole.

Jash

[summoner]

GTAAH, we already stated this to him on antilag forums etc, but end of day it comes down to $'s. As for the name yes well that was a brilliant move by that workshop/individuals involved.

[MarkR33]

where does one get this so called video? i wouldnt mind a copy

[REPRAZENT]

I know its late but....

Just on the topic of trying to promote the fact that all jap imort drivers arent hoons etc.

It doesnt even matter *if* you got a semi good natured story on today tonight or a current affair. Ppl may see the story then go out on the road the next night & see some 20 y/o in their R33 weaving through traffic doing 100kms in a 60 zone.

Now, I dont know anyone that bought their import jus to look good - of course they ocasionly get throttle happy. But you know as well as I do that anyone in any type of hotted up car is gonna do the same & give it some. It just so happens that Imports got cracked down on.

A story isnt going to change ppls opinions because it wont be true, & if they did believe it then they r mighty gullable. Id like to have someone tell me that they havent raced someone, or got their car sideway or gone over the speed limit. But like I said, its not just an import thing.

Dont get me wrong, Im not dissing anyone at all. Even if you were the best skyline driver & didnt do any of that, you would have to be one of very few, am I right? even if you dont do it very often.

Yea sure, there are positives to the import scene...... but you dont need a story on the ppl involved. ppl make up their own minds when they drive down the street & see our cars.

[rs73]

why don't we ALL import owners make a sticker at the back of our windows that says

"Down with Hoons" or

"Hoons are Looser"

[tigeryas]

or..."thank you for driving within the speed limit"

[zanda]

....  *if* you got a semi good natured story on today tonight or a current affair.

saw a good story the other night actually. I never knew!?!

[rob banks]

I know this is an old thread - but I think there is still more to add,, and this is my first post - though I have been lurking for a while.

And also, for anyone who was on the cruise on sat night from innaloo bunnings I was the driver of the Silver R33 GTR.

Anyway, that said,,,

Ive been fortunate enough to grow up around cars and mechanics, Ive rebuilt V8s and old Datsuns and you name it, so ive seen lots of different car scenes from all different points of view.

It doesnt matter if your in the jap import scene, holden, ford v8 scenes, even things like vintage cars and italian cars (i also have a 1974 Fiat/Pininfarina/Ferrari 130 coupe!), they all still have a bad name amoungst the upper middle class. They see anyone who has any interest in anything apart from the stock market and fine wines as a hoon. I am generalising a lot, I know a lot of older well off people who dont think like that at all. What most people worry about though is when some teenager on their P plates whos rich parents just bought them a Lancer Gli and a fat exhaust and kit canes it down their street and ploughs over a child. The reputation of any motor vehicle enthusiast club suffers from things like this.

If attitudes are going to change its going to take a lot of time and for people who do put their right foot down to do so in a courteous manner - Dont ****ing cut me off when I am driving my work van, I cant stop in that space. Dont ****ing tailgate slow driving old lady from Salvation Army retirement home - back the **** off and wait till you can pass. Dont plant your foot to make it through those amber lights - you can wait 3 minutes to get your ****ing big mac and chips.

Having said that - I love planting my foot - in any car - and over the past few weeks that I've had this beast I have greatly enjoyed leaving people behind at the lights. Do it sensibly though, and people may chill out about it. If youre old enough to afford a performance car then you are old enough to limit yourself.

Argh thats my spiele for the week.

Mikeru_r33: I think I know you, I wont say your last name on here though - Mike O'B? Did you go to the academy? I did audio there - gone now though. Also Im good friends with Tom S and Sean G. small world hey.

Adios Amigos.

Mark - Rob Banks.