Things To Beware Of When Purchasing Evo..

[GTR_77]

Hey guys, just want to start of by saying this is by far the most informative forum with the friendliest bunch of people I have ever participated in.. Day by day I learn more and more

I am going to be in the market for an evo 7,8 quiet shortly, I would rather a private sale as the dealerships have the prices hiked up along with all the other suspicious activity, the issue is that unless it was a private import or though a private broker then a private sale would impose the same problems..

Things I have read about are how to understand the grading papers, always ask for the export/dereg papers, if there are none walk away, have also heard of a service you can pay for and they retrieve all the original information from japan.. painted chassis rails? What are the odds of actually attaining the export/dereg papers from a private sale? quiet low I suppose as the general public wouldnt be aware enough to ask for them?

Any help would be greatly appreciated as I am quiet stumped with spending hard earned money on a previous wreck or high km wound back import while some dealer sits in his office chair reaping the dodgy profit and laughing about it with his friends...

Cheers, Bill

Edited January 11, 2013 by GTR_77

[darksky34]

look for the member iron chef, he's an import broker and will be able to help you out probably

[Sinista32]

I have heard nothing but good things about Iron Chef. His posts are informative.

EVO 7 or 8 you say. Hmmmmm

[bufforah]

I am currently importing through Iron Chef Imports.

And honestly...... I am very happy. I looked in aus for a number of months for the 'right' car and when decided to import they where the most helpful and informative of the importers I spoke to (I did not speak to all, so no offence to anyone)

They are also friendly, did not try to feed be B/S and they put up with my constant annoying questions. They have been helpful along each stage of the process (and available on weekend )

Definately contact Iron Chef via the forum (Kristian) or google their website.

Just waiting for my baby to arrive

Edited January 11, 2013 by bufforah

[GTR_77]

  On 11/01/2013 at 4:29 AM, Sinista32 said:

I have heard nothing but good things about Iron Chef. His posts are informative.

EVO 7 or 8 you say. Hmmmmm

haha! I have been following your thread closely sinista, beaaaauuutifull evo you have there for sale, the problem for me is that my budget is around the 20 k mark.. which is possibly one of the main reasons i have to sift through the crap of a lot of the private sales to find a gem.. also only puts me in the evo 7 category as they've taken a little drop as of late which in turn means its even more of a grey area never actually coming Aus compiled. I wish you the best of luck with the sale, if it werent for the slow times it would have already been sold thats for sure, its obvious it has been taken care of like your own baby.. How is the sale going in general? many phone calls, offers, time wasters?

Thanks for the reply darksky and bufforah, I have seen and read a lot from Iron Chef and you can tell by the way he is spoken and his reputation on this forum that he is a genuine professional and honest bloke, I think it comes down to once again having something arrive compiled and registered it may just be out of my reach financially.

Edited January 11, 2013 by GTR_77

[Sinista32]

Hi Bill, interest is there but slow till about a day ago. Has picked up since I put the pics back up, in the last day or so.

I've sent out extra pics after a couple of enquiries and one "very keen" timewaster. No direct calls or offers yet.

I'll be giving the option soon to sell with the enkies and retain my Diamond black volk GTC's. That will drop it a few thou.

It's just been put up on Gumtree and after the weekend I'll drop it on to carsales.

So you know it will need a stock zorst to pass rego or go over pits.

The one that's on there is over the DB limit. Not by too much but enough to be failed.

[bufforah]

Good luck with your search

:-)

[GTR-N1]

The EVO 7 owned by MaTBoY here on SAU may come up F/S at some stage.

Otherwise if it's brought out from England, Kristian is known to cross-dress into an 'Iron Lady' and she's even easier to deal with - just sayin'

[Absent]

I was in a simliar position about a year ago searching for a 7-8 had a import broker sending me auction sheets of sub 80k evos, turned out to be substantially cheaper to buy local, the quality evos in japan seem to fetch a premium so if you see a low km evo at a dealer going at a reasonable price you can assume its had a hair cut. In fact I'd avoid dealers like the plague and use chef or go with a private sale.

I ended up waiting for a local one that I liked, be patient and get it inspected by an evo specialist, you will find a nice 7 at 20k.

Also join up on EvolutionOz.net if you haven't already, there are some great examples for sale and great information.

[djvoodoo]

PM sent

[GTR_77]

  On 11/01/2013 at 1:31 PM, Absent said:

I was in a simliar position about a year ago searching for a 7-8 had a import broker sending me auction sheets of sub 80k evos, turned out to be substantially cheaper to buy local, the quality evos in japan seem to fetch a premium so if you see a low km evo at a dealer going at a reasonable price you can assume its had a hair cut. In fact I'd avoid dealers like the plague and use chef or go with a private sale.

I ended up waiting for a local one that I liked, be patient and get it inspected by an evo specialist, you will find a nice 7 at 20k.

Also join up on EvolutionOz.net if you haven't already, there are some great examples for sale and great information.

Thanks for the reply and information mate, could you or anyone pm me an evo specialist that provides that type of service that I can take a long with me? I'm in Sydney

I rang a guy yesterday, really nice guy, been something that I have been kind of waiting for, sort of track ready as I want to get into and start participating in track days etc, has the work done to it, owned by a mature owner, very clean etc I rang the guy and a couple red flags turned up, the previous owner had done the work, he had only owned it for a year or so, the previous owner who had the work done purchased it from edward lee's stock back in 2007 with 45,000 kilometres on it, he had the work done to it at 65,000 and shortly later sold it, the car is at 75,000 k's now.

The characteristics of the car are exactly what I have been looking for, however when I heard Edward Lee's my heart did sink a little, the cars had the whole upgraded turbo, head work dyno, tuned by pulse racing (where I was hopefully planning on going, heard they were great with wrx and evo's) had the bottom end freshened up and cleaned, says he has receipts from the previous owner, as soon as I heard edward lee's my heart did sink realizing that it has possibly been wound back and possibly has previous damage history? (Heard and read a lot of dodgy crap about them)

problem then is it becomes like 95 % of them here have not been bought in as private imports and a lot have been bought originally from these dealerships.. at the least this ones had the work done to it and maintained and looked after by a professional place? as long as it hasn't been in a wreck previously. Car looks immaculate in the photos and he said the same to me over the phone, that the interior is absolutely faultless (the recaros have had a re- trim in leather and everything looks very well maintaned I may be going and seeing it next week, which is also why I need someone to recommend me someone who knows evo/ imports really well to inspect the car inside and out, I dont want to post the link of the particular car here, however it would be a HUGE help if anyone maybe iron/ladychef or someone whose heavily in the jap import game would allow me to PM them or anyone in the scene so they can tell me if they have seen the car or know a little about it, he told me its never been tracked, by him or the previous owner, my money is on I show someone whose in the scene the car and they tell me they have seen it somewhere in the past.. you just never know who knows who I suppose so it cant hurt to ask on here, the current owner seems like a real nice genuine guy, hes definately not the one im worried about anyway any help is gladly appreciated guys..

Edited January 12, 2013 by GTR_77

[GTR-N1]

I'd contact JapLink Motors > talk to Todd saying that you're from SAU & give him the VIN/Chassis# > he may be able to do a check on the car.

[Absent]

Copied straight from EvoOz, all recommended evo workshops.

Bel Garage

19 Clapham Road, Regents Park, NSW 2143, Australia

PH: 02 9645 6608

http://www.belgarage.com.au/

Croydon Racing Developments

9 Blaxland Street

Silverwater NSW 2128

Sydney, Australia

02 9648 4264

http://www.croydonra...velopments.com/

Insight Motorsports

Unit 8

34 Lidco Street

Arndell Park NSW 2148

Phone: +61 2 9679 9766

http://www.insightmotorsports.com.au/

IS Motor Racing

Unit 5, 5-7 Bermill St Rockdale NSW 2216

02 9599 9918

http://www.ismotorracing.com/

Pulse Racing

Unit 3/788 Old Illawarra Road, Menai NSW 2234

(opposite Aldi in the Menai Auto Plaza)

9543 5007

http://www.pulseracing.com.au/

V & E Rigoli

Unit 9, 442 Victoria St, Wetherill Park 2164

Ph: 9756 3413,

Mobile: 0412 046 704

http://www.rigoli.com.au/

SRT Added

Dash Sport & Performance

Dural

Mobile: 0415 984 987

Vsport

Sydney Branch

Address: 46/70 Holbeche Road

Arndell Park NSW 214

Phone: + 61 2 9679 8644 | Fax: + 61 2 9679 8655

Mobile: 0437 VSport (0437 877678)

www.vsport.com.au

I'd get one of these guys to do a compression test, check AYC/ACD system, gearbox, transfer, etc the $200-300 for a pre-purchase inspection is the way, go halves with the guy its useful information for both of you.

Was it freshened up to factory spec? what kind of power is it at?

Edited January 12, 2013 by Absent

[Iron Chef]

Bill, it's worth also noting that the exchange rate is now at levels not seen since pre-GFC. Cars are getting cheaper once again (and finally!).

In terms of what to look for specific to Evos, check for rust, particularly under the rear of the car (Mitsubishis are notorious for it), accident repairs, wear and tear on the clutch (budget for a new one straight away), and look at the interior trim on the side bolster of the driver's seat (wear/holes) and door trims (comes loose).

[goingforadds]

Should also Add "Meek automotive," they're also an Evo specialist workshop, located in Sydney

[RSKE]

am a evo owner myself, when inspecting as Kristian said, underbody rust is the number one thing, also if it's been painted in a "stonegaurd black" undernearth stay away as they're trying to hide something, also as for any jap import try and get as much paperwork as possibile, eg auction report/de-reg/service history.

Don't be put off by dealerships, some have excellent examples, where as some have terrible.. it just takes a while to find the right one..

Interior is the key give away about k's geaknob/steering wheel should be good condition, should have standard floor mats etc..

test drive is always important, drive train = number 1 checkpoint as there is always problems with the AYC/Gearbox/Diffs

Purchursing a evo stock is always the best..

Get it checked out by one of the evo specisilist as said as above..

Regarding the VIN checks, you can only check it if it passed through the auctions 3 months or less.. if Im correct(?)

Edited January 16, 2013 by RSKE

[GTR_77]

Cheers on the replies guys.. Very helpful as I wouldn't have thought of or checked for half the things you guys have mentioned..