foxy boxy Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 Hi all, I have a R33 gts-t that was converted to non-turbo as per p-plate laws. However the stock cooler that's in there at the moment is pretty average & will soon need replacing. I plan on putting a turbo back into the car eventually, so I was wondering if it's worth putting a front mount in it now getting it ready for a turbo, instead of waiting till the turbo gets put back in? I didn't really see a problem with this, but I'm new, so I thought I'd ask for any advice/opinions! Cheers, Alex Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/419429-front-mount-intercooler-in-a-na-worth-it/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Natro Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 (edited) It's just a restriction u don't need and as the airs not being forced in the intercooler will have minimal effect on intake temp, in all honesty mate its just a restriction and its a simple thing to do later on... It will work using a return flow but powerwise, may even lose a bit Edit: so u de turboed a gtst, welcome to the world of low comp Natro horribleness... I warn u now do not race anything as a corolla will tramp u lol. Also as it is factory a turbo your car is still illegal for u to drive on ur ps... Regardless weather it has a turbo or not (yes I know it's a stupid law) so u may aswell put the turbo back on as its the same fine Edited February 6, 2013 by Captain Natro Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/419429-front-mount-intercooler-in-a-na-worth-it/#findComment-6739745 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sklyn Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 Not an expert by any means, but I really think better to not put fmic on until you have turbo back. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/419429-front-mount-intercooler-in-a-na-worth-it/#findComment-6739747 Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxy boxy Posted February 6, 2013 Author Share Posted February 6, 2013 So you don't think it's worth it? I just wasn't too sure about it. Talking power wise, it's not too bad for an N/A. It flogged an xr6 ute the other day off the line, not sure whether it was because the other driver couldn't shift or not haha. What do you mean I'm not allowed to drive it? Yeah I'm definitely not expert, so I was just putting it out there! Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/419429-front-mount-intercooler-in-a-na-worth-it/#findComment-6739770 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Natro Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 So you don't think it's worth it? I just wasn't too sure about it. Talking power wise, it's not too bad for an N/A. It flogged an xr6 ute the other day off the line, not sure whether it was because the other driver couldn't shift or not haha. What do you mean I'm not allowed to drive it? Yeah I'm definitely not expert, so I was just putting it out there! Ok, the car is registered as a gtst so it dosent matter if you take the turbo off or not, if ur restricted to a non turbo u can't have a factory turbo registered car, regardless of weather u have the turbo attached or not (yes it's dumb) Plus as turbo motors run a lower compression ratio (google this) then a non turbo motor they will make alot less power when compared to a factory rb25de (compared to a de turboed rb25det) .... Unfortunately Natro motors require hi comp to make power and as uve essentially got a low comp rb using a Natro induction method your going to make sfa power (which is fine if your not interested in power) but as a heads up your going be down at least 20rwkw compared to a factory non turbo 25... Which only make about 100rwkw to star with so.... Yeah Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/419429-front-mount-intercooler-in-a-na-worth-it/#findComment-6739788 Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxy boxy Posted February 6, 2013 Author Share Posted February 6, 2013 Ok, the car is registered as a gtst so it dosent matter if you take the turbo off or not, if ur restricted to a non turbo u can't have a factory turbo registered car, regardless of weather u have the turbo attached or not (yes it's dumb) Plus as turbo motors run a lower compression ratio (google this) then a non turbo motor they will make alot less power when compared to a factory rb25de (compared to a de turboed rb25det) .... Unfortunately Natro motors require hi comp to make power and as uve essentially got a low comp rb using a Natro induction method your going to make sfa power (which is fine if your not interested in power) but as a heads up your going be down at least 20rwkw compared to a factory non turbo 25... Which only make about 100rwkw to star with so.... Yeah Yeah that's fair enough, but the car was fully complied & swapped when I got it, I've been pulled over by police before & they've checked it out. I guess if they didn't know it was a turbo to start with the couldn't tell. That's fair enough, I'll have a talk to my mechanic & see what he says. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/419429-front-mount-intercooler-in-a-na-worth-it/#findComment-6739791 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Natro Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 Yer most won't pick u up, but if they run the plates it will come up as a turbo... So expect to be pulled over lots. .... Quick question, does the car feel slow? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/419429-front-mount-intercooler-in-a-na-worth-it/#findComment-6739794 Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxy boxy Posted February 6, 2013 Author Share Posted February 6, 2013 Wow, I didn't know that. Thanks for the heads up! Well no, the car feels fairly quick. I mean the car I inherited before it was a slug. The only other skyline I've been in is a twin turbo R32 GT-R. So I don't have much to compare it too. But it kills all my friends straight & v6's. It pulled with a VE SS ute the other day. It's had minor things done to it, but you know. Pulls hard upwards from 3,000rpm. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/419429-front-mount-intercooler-in-a-na-worth-it/#findComment-6739801 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hattori Hanzo 69 Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 Needs a 100mm ARC cooler for a NA....do it Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/419429-front-mount-intercooler-in-a-na-worth-it/#findComment-6739803 Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxy boxy Posted February 6, 2013 Author Share Posted February 6, 2013 I'm no expert, but th Needs a 100mm ARC cooler for a NA....do it I'm no expert, but that's ridiculous. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/419429-front-mount-intercooler-in-a-na-worth-it/#findComment-6739815 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Natro Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 Wow, I didn't know that. Thanks for the heads up! Well no, the car feels fairly quick. I mean the car I inherited before it was a slug. The only other skyline I've been in is a twin turbo R32 GT-R. So I don't have much to compare it too. But it kills all my friends straight & v6's. It pulled with a VE SS ute the other day. It's had minor things done to it, but you know. Pulls hard upwards from 3,000rpm. Hmm, interesting... My Natro got walked by basically everything in a straight line lol Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/419429-front-mount-intercooler-in-a-na-worth-it/#findComment-6739816 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sklyn Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 Are you sure it hasn't got the turbo????? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/419429-front-mount-intercooler-in-a-na-worth-it/#findComment-6739819 Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxy boxy Posted February 6, 2013 Author Share Posted February 6, 2013 Hmm, interesting... My Natro got walked by basically everything in a straight line lol Well mine seems to be doing quite well! Are you sure it hasn't got the turbo????? Haha, a couple of my friends said that too. Makes a distinct noise, assuming it's just the cold air intake, can't see a turbo! Plus the boost gauge doesn't register. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/419429-front-mount-intercooler-in-a-na-worth-it/#findComment-6739855 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sklyn Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 Pics please! always makes a thread better Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/419429-front-mount-intercooler-in-a-na-worth-it/#findComment-6739863 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Natro Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 If this things turboed still god I'm going to chuckle Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/419429-front-mount-intercooler-in-a-na-worth-it/#findComment-6739873 Share on other sites More sharing options...
t_revz Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 Pics please! always makes a thread better +1 for pics Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/419429-front-mount-intercooler-in-a-na-worth-it/#findComment-6739976 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LANDSCRIBBLE Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/419429-front-mount-intercooler-in-a-na-worth-it/#findComment-6739995 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eightsixboy Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 I bet this thing is still turbo. Can't see a converted n/a been quick at all. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/419429-front-mount-intercooler-in-a-na-worth-it/#findComment-6740115 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hattori Hanzo 69 Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 I'm no expert, but th I'm no expert, but that's ridiculous. im not expert but i cant believe we are even discussing this option in a thread, no its f**king pointless to fit an intercooler to a NA car Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/419429-front-mount-intercooler-in-a-na-worth-it/#findComment-6740128 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plattsy Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 morning giggles. this thing is still a turbo. na wont even beet a daihatsu. just ask captain natro. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/419429-front-mount-intercooler-in-a-na-worth-it/#findComment-6740129 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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