An Alternative Ecu Choice Worth Considering.

[Guilt-Toy]

20k worth... damn... which ones do you sell the most of ? i only buy a max 3 at a time... have you tried the dash's ?

[Guilt-Toy]

Adaptronic has released a new video about tuning modes, this covers the GTR multi throttle setup.

[95_240]

I have a e420d and I think a tuner just lost my business. This ecu just like the plugin for the R33 uses wasted spark and semi-sequential injection. The tuner pretty much said this was a waste and I should run direct fire and sequential injection. I just want to get some opinions and see if it's really worth it to upgrade. I think this tuner just wants my money. He did kind of say in a smartass way that yes he could get my car running with this setup.

[Guilt-Toy]

yeah... times have changed man... ECU technology is not what it was 10 years ago, these things run awesome...

I tuned the late model Nissan G37 coupe with a rb30det in it with the e420d 2 nights ago, and it runs like a charm!! the diff ratio is really bad so it does about 240km/h in 3rd gear at 7.1k rpm

take the car to a decent tuner who is willing to work with you, that guy seems like he does not need your business or something ??

good luck bro, dont bother upgrading, all my cars run wasted spark, and my street car runs semi seq injection with the adaptronic and its great.

cheers

[95_240]

Thanks for the reassurance. Right now I'm just going to get it tuned with the stock setup but my plans are to switch to a larger turbo and 750cc injectors. Hopefully I can find a local tuner that is willing to help otherwise there is an adaptronic dealer and tuner about 400 miles from my location.

[Guilt-Toy]

what i do not understand, if a tuner is worth anything he should be able to suss out a new ecu and tune it with minimal fuss, i mean just because you are using a different ecu it does not mean the engine runs any different...

here in the UAE its like this, most workshops specialise in one platform and thats all they do, where I can tune 20+ different solutions or anything thats put infront of me, if its got a windows program and a laptop cable im willing to tackle anything.

search around, you might find someone not so closed minded, also tell the tuner that adaptronic has great email support! during the day you can get a reply within the hour sometimes.

good luck and let us know how you go.

[jesiotrot]

+1 for Adaptronic. I have a 440 Select wired in to my Mazda MX6 running flex fuel with the Zeitronix sensor. Only thing I would like to see added is a wastegate duty cycle vs. ethanol content table. I can only run 16-17psi on 98 as I have a 10:1 compression motor but on E85 I run 20-22psi. Im turning the boost down manually via switch for now but it would be good if it did it automatically.

Also their email support is great, even on the weekend I get replies within a couple of hours.

[Guilt-Toy]

have you tried to email andy about it? he has been able to make some seriously cool aux tables to make pretty much anything work, it might not be there as a standard table but the guru will be able to rig it up for you in no time i am sure!

[Roy]

So 440 Universal or Link G4 Storm for a built YB Cosworth with about 460hp A bit gutted to be changing the Pectel ecu but need something with more accessible software for some more mods and tunability

[msmith]

Hi,

I have been wanting to get a after market ecu as I'm very close to the limits of my stock r33 ecu. I have looked at vipec, haltech and power fc and would like to tune it myself because i dislike handing my car over to others. But have done nothing of this sort before.

Could you please give me a run down of how to setup a adpatronic ecu? Starting points etc.

I've done as much research as i can. From what it seems the base map will run my rb25det fairly well as it only has basic mods.

I think best setup for me at the moment would be a MAP based map with TPS used for transient throttle map prediction, as there is only 1 map to tune and i dont need to worry about highest takes preference or averages between the 2 maps..

I have a Autometer wideband for AFR reading and headphones to listen for knock.

I dont need to worry about triggering as the select plug in ecus dont allow modification.

I have read the manual but would like to know what you do when you first connect to the ecu without giving away too many trade secrets.

Thanks in advance,

Matt

[Guilt-Toy]

the first thing you need to do is learn how to set the ignition timing properly.

NEVER use the white loop on the wiring harness.

you must remove the coil, then tape a coil lead from the coil to the plug, then connect the timing light to the coil lead, on #1 of course. then you need to calibrate the ignition offset to be correct.

[SargeRX8]

I think I'm gonna buy this ECU. This ECU has everything I need that the PFC is too old for. Ive read some quality information about VE tuning and it seems the go. The flex fuel support is awesome too.

[portaz]

Tbh on my car anyway so far from the beginning this ecu hasn't performed as expected but may be nothing to do with ecu and more setup but for me at least apart from plug and play its as difficult as my haltech e6 back in the day. Andy is great though and in most applications I'm sure it's fantastic

[SargeRX8]

Tbh on my car anyway so far from the beginning this ecu hasn't performed as expected but may be nothing to do with ecu and more setup but for me at least apart from plug and play its as difficult as my haltech e6 back in the day. Andy is great though and in most applications I'm sure it's fantastic

Could you elaborate? What's the issue? What were you expecting and what are you lacking?

[portaz]

If you read my misfiring in dyno thread it will explain but mainly looking at you tube and how to guides I expected it to be very easy to get to a basic idle and free rev and it was nearly impossible and I killed a set if turbos in the process not ecu's fault really I was just trying to get it to idle so I could leak check it not to mention the misfiring issue but again probably not ecu if you look at Andy tuning in ve mode it starts first time nice and easy mine was completely opposite

[Guilt-Toy]

Tbh on my car anyway so far from the beginning this ecu hasn't performed as expected but may be nothing to do with ecu and more setup but for me at least apart from plug and play its as difficult as my haltech e6 back in the day. Andy is great though and in most applications I'm sure it's fantastic

I am 100% sure the issues you are having has nothing to do with the ecu, don't you think the plugin application you have purchased has been tested extensively before it was released??? i remember Anna had one in her R33 GTST wayyyy back in the day and since then there has been thousands of units sold.

tbh the ECU will work on any car perfectly if there are no issues with your setup

MY suggestion to you is to rip out those injectors and put in a set of stock ones just to see if this could be causing you some strife! put the fuel the injector system back to standard maybe something silly has been done in the injector install and it is causing you problems! (this also means going back to the standard un molested wiring using the stock resistor pack)

[Guilt-Toy]

Matt: how are you going? did you manage to buy an ECU yet ?

the ecu comes with a tuning cable, and the software is available from the web site and it is easy to connect and work with.

let me know how you go.

[portaz]

So following your theory put it back to stock and then what? I need the injectors I have and that's why I purchased that ecu so it could run them , if I run out of other options I can try I guess what your saying but then what just say oh well can't run injectors that many many other ppl can run but I can't?

[Guilt-Toy]

its a process of elimination! if the miss fire goes away with the standard setup then you know where the issue is now don't you ?

maybe there is a problem in the injector installation ???

the reason why i am thinking this is because i had the SAME issue with my car, same ecu... found the injectors were the issue! put in the stock injectors and the miss fire went away! it only miss fired on load as well, normal driving was fine and they were only 550cc in size.

now i am running a nice set of ID1000cc injectors.

[portaz]

With resister removed ? 1000 are too small for me unfortunately its a big job but I will do it if everything else fails