Deadlift Progress And Improvement Thread

[rev210]

Doing things properly (by that i mean technique aimed at the most efficient lift) then grip doesnt fatigue first. Your back does.

If you are using straps you are maybe performing the movement a little differently.

I would prefer to use fat grips and train grip strength personally.if grip was really an issue

Edited August 8, 2013 by rev210

[No Crust Racing]

Cool so personal preference then.

Who's got some updated DL stats to impress me?

Have you cracked your 200 yet Birds?

[L33SH]

Cool so personal preference then.

Who's got some updated DL stats to impress me?

Have you cracked your 200 yet Birds?

I'm sure the forum will know about it when he does.

[markos]

This grip thing is quite amusing. Obviously that guy trains in a gym where lots of people use them and get good results, so he is for them, nothing wrong with that at all.

I have a gym where no one wears them, so I am against them.

Now I dont know what kind of weights the members at his gym lift, so I cant comment, but I do know what guys at my gym lift without them

310kg - Jack Pollard

300kg - Zoran Jankovski

290kg - Martin Nguyen

287.5kg - Nick Rankin

275kg - Daniel America

267.5kg - Nick Haralambopoulos

260kg - Max Markopoulos

260kg - Spiros Markopoulos

245kg - Conor Zyskowski

240kg - Alen Pezerovic

240kg - Lee Gamble

Way more, but you get the point. Dont assume everyone needs straps, let lifters choose, but its only fair to show them if you train correctly over a long period you wont need them.

If your concern is reps, here is Martin deadlifting triple bodyweight for 6 reps without grip issues

[Sisbro666]

Bad technique I feel sorry for his back.

[Birds]

lol

[markos]

You know who else feels sorry for his back, the guy that used to have the junior World Record before Martin smashed it lol

You know Martin has WR in powerlifting........right?

[Birds]

Gold

[jangles]

Haha, I was waiting for this

[Sisbro666]

Means sweet fa when he spits 3 discs out of his spine

Good luck I hope he never goes thru that as I've seen quite a few who never lifted again after doing stupid shit like 500lbs shrugs with bad ass form

Keep it safe, hard to tell a young ego filled and god knows what else junior (been there done that)

But your back..,, you only get one,

I trained with good form (most times) and still have life long nagging injuries now

[rev210]

Cool so personal preference then.

Who's got some updated DL stats to impress me?

Have you cracked your 200 yet Birds?

Only if preference means bad technique otherwise pointless bandaid

[bozodos]

isn't that guy also a bodybuilder? I was showing a mate a video of him to prove that powerlifting and aesthetics were not mutually exclusive haha

[rev210]

Means sweet fa when he spits 3 discs out of his spine

Good luck I hope he never goes thru that as I've seen quite a few who never lifted again after doing stupid shit like 500lbs shrugs with bad ass form

Keep it safe, hard to tell a young ego filled and god knows what else junior (been there done that)

But your back..,, you only get one,

I trained with good form (most times) and still have life long nagging injuries now

Interested to see what you think good form is... Post a vid?

That to my eye looks nigh on perfect, biomechanically for a dead.

You are also speaking about a world record holders form for your info. Perhaps his trainer can comment?

[Sisbro666]

Ok maybe I see things as a bodybuilder who believes in good form to isolate the muscles not sloppy powerlifters form

Shoulders need to be back chin up and no rounding off the back with a slight arch at the top and quick pause.

I never really focused or loved the deadlift like you powerlifters in here I did it when I wasn't squatting I found both in the same week to taxing

I still managed 200kg approx for 5 by the time I was 19 with strict form

[Sisbro666]

Guys starting out on the deadlift please watch this video

[Sisbro666]

This guys form is spot on

[rev210]

Ok maybe I see things as a bodybuilder who believes in good form to isolate the muscles not sloppy powerlifters form

This is an interesting opinion.

We aren't dealing with a beginers technique here. Powerlifter or not ,deadlifting isn't a simple movement at advanced weight levels. Bodybuiders are arguably not the most concerned bunch of people when it comes to form over muscle stimulation. A powerlifters livelyhood is based on being able to compete. One might think it's of greater interest to minimise muscle injury and maximise strength development through perfection of technique?

Shoulders need to be back chin up and no rounding off the back with a slight arch at the top and quick pause.

Chin up or neck tucked in is debate worthy (your vid posted is very tucked in, this provides better neutral spine at the expense of losing a slightly stronger upper back contraction in the case of chin up). He has scapular retraction, you can see it. The rounding you are refering to is in the upper back , not the lower. Thorasic mobiltiy as it is otherwise known is key to this movement.

I never really focused or loved the deadlift like you powerlifters in here I did it when I wasn't squatting I found both in the same week to taxing

I still managed 200kg approx for 5 by the time I was 19 with strict form

Thats fair enough. What you are or were interested in is personal preference . Perhaps there is opportunity to evalutate your position on deadlift form, in light of some debate and information? I've found some view changing ideas come from Marko's experience and others, with training technique that applies across goals. Be it body building or powerlifting.

You said you picked up some war wounds from training.. how old are you now? Good to have some sobering insights for the younger gen.

[Sisbro666]

His chin is up until the end not sure why he dips his chin right at the end lol

The other guy doesn't nor the other countless videos that came up instantly

33 started bodybuilding when I was almost 15 went hard till I was 25 since then I had kids and been on and off

[jangles]

How many injuries have your record holders sustained being taught how to deadlift incorrectly Markos?

[Birds]

I agree with rev...powerlifter form is hardly "sloppy". Form may be slightly different to conventional, because that's what happens at te extremes of lifting heavy weights. Form at 300kg is not the same as form at 150kg. It's in their interests to protect their bodies and safely lift as much weight as possible.

I don't see how you can have had back injuries in the past and be criticising the form of a WR holder, who lifts more weight at less bodyweight than you ever did, without the injuries you incurred? It's like someone from my basketball team trying to tell Lebron how to make a play...