Deadlift Progress And Improvement Thread

[L33SH]

IMO, he wasn't lifting to his potential 2 weeks ago.

Maybe. I wouldn't say that to him though lol

[jangles]

Maybe. I wouldn't say that to him though lol

Why not? Does the truth still offend people?

[L33SH]

Why not? Does the truth still offend people?

I think it's an assumption and judgemental. I don't know what was going on in his life 2 weeks ago except he was out drinking at a bar. I don't know about his sleeping or eating patterns to make a comment like that to him.

[jangles]

I think it's an assumption and judgemental. I don't know what was going on in his life 2 weeks ago except he was out drinking at a bar. I don't know about his sleeping or eating patterns to make a comment like that to him.

you don't need to know anything about his personal life to assume that putting 40kg onto a PB in 2 weeks is a large amount. If he never slept or ate for a week prior to the 260kg pull, it's still not his strength potential, is it?

[L33SH]

you don't need to know anything about his personal life to assume that putting 40kg onto a PB in 2 weeks is a large amount. If he never slept or ate for a week prior to the 260kg pull, it's still not his strength potential, is it?

A 40kg increase in two weeks is a large amount relative to what? I don't think there's a rule book on how much you should be increasing by each session. This guy is at the gym 6 nights (we go at the exact same time) and I see him deadlifting 3 to 4 times a week. If each session he increased his weight by 5kg there's your 40kg increase in two weeks.

[rev210]

you don't need to know anything about his personal life to assume that putting 40kg onto a PB in 2 weeks is a large amount. If he never slept or ate for a week prior to the 260kg pull, it's still not his strength potential, is it?

I see no issue with a 40kg increase in 2 weeks on that movement. Maybe it is from your own mindset and experience. Fair enough .

Do you not think that in order to achieve such gains the guy has likely been challenging his limits regularly?

If you challege yourself more, do you think the gains will be smaller or larger?

Not sleeping or eating for a week is an excuse. If you don't lift 260kg then you haven't . If you did lift 260kg and you go on to say you didn't eat or sleep, well it's not going to add a gram to the weight you lifted. It's 260kg.

[bozodos]

I jumped from 110-140kg deadlifts in 3 weeks. I think grip strength, and not using enough effort was what was mostly holding me back.

I wasn't able to get out a 150kg single this week disappointingly, but I did do a set of heavier dips and bent over rows beforehand (due to the gym only having 1 power cage / squat rack).

[jangles]

I see no issue with a 40kg increase in 2 weeks on that movement. Maybe it is from your own mindset and experience. Fair enough .

Do you not think that in order to achieve such gains the guy has likely been challenging his limits regularly?

If you challege yourself more, do you think the gains will be smaller or larger?

Not sleeping or eating for a week is an excuse. If you don't lift 260kg then you haven't . If you did lift 260kg and you go on to say you didn't eat or sleep, well it's not going to add a gram to the weight you lifted. It's 260kg.

I never said I had an issue with him increasing 40kg in 2 weeks.

what I did say is that, 'in my opinion' he wasn't lifting to his potential on the 260kg.

A genuine 40kg increase in 'strength' at that weight level, in that time frame is massive.

Maybe he hadn't been pushing himself as hard before, maybe he hadn't been eating or sleeping enough or maybe his true 1rm is 360kg.

My statement, which was my opinion, just as yours is that you're ok with that, that he wasn't lifting to his potential prior still stands.

[rev210]

I never said I had an issue with him increasing 40kg in 2 weeks.

what I did say is that, 'in my opinion' he wasn't lifting to his potential on the 260kg.

A genuine 40kg increase in 'strength' at that weight level, in that time frame is massive.

Maybe he hadn't been pushing himself as hard before, maybe he hadn't been eating or sleeping enough or maybe his true 1rm is 360kg.

My statement, which was my opinion, just as yours is that you're ok with that, that he wasn't lifting to his potential prior still stands.

Yes different understandings of the situation .People have relative levels of understanding what hard work is (weight training wise) and what can result from it. It's normal to think about other factors as you mention when trying to figure it out.

What probably colours my view a bit is , in the past, I have added 40kg to a squat . Going from 180kg to 240kg in the same 2 week time frame many years ago. I worked very very hard to achieve this (hardest work in the gym I had ever done). Of course I had plenty of people say ' you are a freak' & ' you have genetics, it won't work for me....' . They were right only about the 'it won't work for me' bit because they don't wan't to train the same way. Different goals or maybe just in a comfort zone.

Markos has posted plenty of similar improvement statements

Also, my opinion on why I did best on all the forum challenges, is I think because my token efforts to train the different movements came with experience and the abillity to apply more intensity. Than the much younger and fitter dudes competing with me. Not becasue I think I have mega genetics and secret hidden potential (I appreciate you aren't saying that).

From my limited experience perhaps this can offer something to consider. That a great effort can be an equally powerful explanation for such fast gains. Again only my opinion offered as food for thought.

[jangles]

I'm not trying to figure it out, what you've just explained is my initial point.

Markos has posted plenty of similar improvements, which is my initial point.

Do you not agree that the training that lead yourself to gain so much was because of the effort and training? when you were doing that you were realising your potential?

[markos]

Who do I see in here to get those 5 minutes back?

[-FIGJAM-]

I'll blame Birds

[Birds]

You can get a 180kg deadlift in 1 month!

doitfgt.jog

Done this yet boz?!?

[Birds]

90kg x 10

130kg x 10

160kg x 5

175kg x 2

180kg x 1

Deadlifts haven't seen much progress since I last posted. Have just been maintaining with minor increases here and there while I focus on shoulder rehabilitation and pullups/bench. My form is better now, though; my back is less sore afterwards. Still getting a bit of hitching on the max weights

90kg x 10

130kg x 10

160kg x 5

180kg x 2

185kg x 1

[jangles]

Cracked 200 last night

[Birds]

Congrats, what weight was that done at?

[L33SH]

Cracked 200 last night

awesome grats!

[bozodos]

Done this yet boz?!?

for some reason I only got out a 170 again the other week, but I did get out a 200kg squat fairly easily. Training weight is about 140 5x3 on my deadlift day.

I like deadlift a lot more than I used to as well haha.

[jangles]

Congrats, what weight was that done at?

A fairly lazy 78/79kg, no belt

Been a long time coming, this is the first dead cycle I've done since injury.

[jangles]

210kg, that's the end of this cycle.