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Without sounding like I'm sassing you, do you follow any religion or something?

Some of your comments are very Zen/Buddha type stuff.

Become one with the bar etc.

No paying you out, just curious as your mentality is quite different to what I normally see in/around gyms and gym threads and seems to be a big part of your arsenal.

I'd be lying if I said there wasn't already a noticeable decrease in nerve discomfort in that leg.

Normally when I stand It twinges every time, it's backed off a bit 0_0

if there is an issue with your pelvis and feet, I can understand how it could be causing pain after squatting or deadlifting. Weight is not being shiffted or moved with the right body mechanics and the pressure is being forced into the wrong spots causing pain.

thats my uneducated theory.

give it a better time, if it doesnt end up working move onto the next thing i spose

Well if nothing else I'm finding new and interesting ways to fail, going backwards at the moment.

Warmed up, did a couple of 50kg reps then moved to 116kg.

Got 7 reps again and went for 8 but didn't have it.

Reset the bar to 100kg, total break 2.5mins did 8 reps, had a 2min break then got another 6 before failing 7.

2min break and found 2 more kg so squeezed that on the bar and did 2 reps of 118kg and failed the 3rd :/

Moved on to chins. Barely made 8 reps at 25kg, dropped to 22.5 and made another 7 dropped to 20kg and only got 6.

Similar story for dips, started at 30kg, failed the 8th rep, dropped to 27.5, failed on the 6th, had another go and got 4 then took a very brief break and managed 2 more. Breaks unless stated are 2mins.

After that did a few body weight only lunges then a plank and a side plank on both sides then another normal plank after some more lunges.

I was shaking doing only 30sec planks, I was doing 2mins at one stage, weak core is weak.

So fail city all round, getting weaker it seems. One session a week is not enough.

Sorry for typos, on the phone.

So Dan,

I'll share my thoughts with you about what happened but, if you could answer these..

first, did you do things the way you 'wanted' ?

second , did you get the result you 'wanted' ?

If you did things the way you wanted , then how committed were you on a scale of 1 to 10 (think of this in terms of passion or enthusiasm).

If you didn't get the result you wanted , what is your response?

I did things the way I wanted in terms of setting myself up to have a go at 8+ continuous reps as right now that's the mark of whether I've improved and I'm just not seeing any gain there.

Did I get the results I wanted, no. I genuinely expected to see at least 8 have a go at 9 or squeeze out 9 and rack it.

Committed as per normal, didn't waste any strength on too many warm up reps, made sure I was really comfy and in good position to maximise my chances. I went for that 8th rep being 95% sure I wouldn't make it based on how much 7 took out of me, but I thought I'm gonna go for it because if I don't try then I definitely won't make it, but if I try it could happen and I really pushed at the "sticking" point to make it go up, but when it starts coming back down you've gotta concede. I've even gone as far as snatching extra breaths which I don't normally do because I don't try for long enough to need that extra breath.

In terms of my response, I'm disappointed, as I thought I'd put in a bit to do those 30 reps previously and was keen to see a gain in the initial continuous reps.

I will note, at the moment when I wake up, I'm not really feeling refreshed. I went for a walk this morning to help me wake up which I had stopped doing because of my leg, Chiro said pelvis will love movement so get walking.

I've been a bit "emo" as Kate calls it, in terms of being a bit meh about gym because of my leg and not being able to do squats and deads.

Commitment is still there, say 6-7, enthusiasm is probably a 4-5.

Light workout last night just to get myself back on the 3 days a week cycle.

Even still, had some bench issues. Went 8 reps at 110 then failed on the 6th rep attempt for the second set (2min break)

Got 2 sets of 20kg chins out and 2 sets of 25kg dips out.

Also did some body weight lunges and some more front and side planking.

I've had no relief since seeing the chiro. I'm still stretching daily and have been walking most days, 3k or more as I've been told to keep the pelvis moving.

Also still doing the nerve glide stretch, nothing seems to help at the moment. Chiro again today, if she's got nothing for me I will have a think about whether oto get an MRI and examine those lower discs (I'm not private health so they set me back a few backs) or go to a podiatrist and get my gait analyzed properly.

See what the Chiro says today. She was the one that suggested the MRI so if there's no improvement or she doesn't feel she can get any, I might just do that.

Back, she said I was very tight again and I said I'd not noticed any improvement. She said if there's to be any improvement it might start after this treatment given how long I've had issues. I go back in a week and if there's been no improvement she will book me for an MRI, so if nothing else she's got a game plan which I like.

She also said core and light leg work are fine, just avoid too much weight or twisting while bending where possible.

At the moment I'm just walking, planking and doing some bodyweight lunges, she said those are all fine.

Rev: You never commented on why yopu thought I didn't make an improvement, fair enough I only had a 2 week go at it, but it seemed like you had something to add earlier and didn't.

That aside, another lighter workout last night getting back to 3x weekly.

Bench 110 for 8 reps then 6 reps, which was only 5 reps on Monday and failed 6.

20kg chins x 2 sets of 8. 25kg dips x2 sets of 8.

2 sets of 10 per leg body weight lunges, 2 sets of 20 body weight calf raises, a 1min front plank, 30 secs each side, then another 30 sec front plank and some body weight squatting motions to see how things feel, I note the bum wants to tuck just above parallel.

I'd also be inclined to say that I am experiencing a little less leg and back discomfort, normally by the end of the day I'll get some real sharp grabs and twinges but they were more minor last night. Whether that's chrio or just movement from walking/squat motions/lunges/stretching I'm not sure.

Sorry about not getting back to you Dan, been quite busy

I did things the way I wanted in terms of setting myself up to have a go at 8+ continuous reps as right now that's the mark of whether I've improved and I'm just not seeing any gain there.

Consider what is in that goal. you wanted to get a single set of 8 or more reps and not say, continue to train your intensity? When you asked me for some input wasn't it to train more intensely?

Did I get the results I wanted, no. I genuinely expected to see at least 8 have a go at 9 or squeeze out 9 and rack it.

The no so secret , secret is what you have been doing so far isn't necessarily about increasing this lift. The things I had you do are about perseverence testing and pushing you into dissapointment. Easy enough to examine your benchpress and program but, if you are giving less than 50%? (based on your numbers below)

Committed as per normal,

You are little low on it

I went for that 8th rep being 95% sure I wouldn't make it based on how much 7 took out of me,

If you are 95% betting against yourself in the mind, will that help or hinder your efforts? Question why you entertain that thought, is it useful?


In terms of my response, I'm disappointed, as I thought I'd put in a bit to do those 30 reps previously and was keen to see a gain in the initial continuous reps.

Thats a reaction. A response is more about what you are going to do about the situation. Also, is it interesting that revealed in that statement is a belief that you maybe have earnt a result from a past effort?

I will note, at the moment when I wake up, I'm not really feeling refreshed. I went for a walk this morning to help me wake up which I had stopped doing because of my leg, Chiro said pelvis will love movement so get walking.

I've been a bit "emo" as Kate calls it, in terms of being a bit meh about gym because of my leg and not being able to do squats and deads.

This is something to keep in mind as a potential obsticle but, what actions will you take to address it ,if you consider it one?

Commitment is still there, say 6-7, enthusiasm is probably a 4-5.

Your commitment is set as high as your passion or enthusiasm, so at 4-5 it's less than 50%.

Just to recap. What I have been getting you to do isnt about getting you bench press numbers for one set. What you observed is that when someone provides a 'push' (makes up for the low commitment) you gave a greater effort than left to your own devices.

Think about what is addressable in this. What could you do about it?

Edited by rev210

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