Falsely Accused Of Excessive Noise?

[Plattsy]

brilliant!

[Birds]

This is why China is an autocracy...it's just cheaper for you guys to let someone take over and you're too tight ass to do anything about it.

Same thing will happen here. We don't stand up to these fines and bullshit; we won't be standing up to bigger threats to our basic rights.

[GTR-N1]

Tis a case of, "Bureaucracy wins over commonsense!" again if it's not fought!

Besides, it's the principle of the thing!

[xALmoN]

F*ck that, I don't have a concession card. I'm already pissed off about having to pay $41 for a noise test, let alone another $10 to catch a tram to EPA headquaters.

you're asian and you dont even know the art of fare evasion?

hold myki in hand, be vigilant, tap when you spot those kents outside.

[Plattsy]

you're asian and you dont even know the art of fare evasion?

hold myki in hand, be vigilant, tap when you spot those kents outside.

nailed it.

[T.D]

you're asian and you dont even know the art of fare evasion?

hold myki in hand, be vigilant, tap when you spot those kents outside.

nailed it.

Ha, you guys are amateurs. Before MYKI came in, it was a case of "Oh, me solly. Me no spick engleesh" whenever the inspectors came around. If you were a white caucasian male, probably wouldn't of worked. But because I'm an white caucasian male trapped in an asians body, it's very believable.

As soon as the inspector gets off the train, I'd be like "Damn flamin' snake in the grass, that was a close one mate. Ol' bugger almost ad' me"

[Odium]

As soon as the inspector gets off the train, I'd be like "Damn flamin' snake in the grass, that was a close one mate. Ol' bugger almost ad' me"

I don't often laugh out loud.

But when I do, my coffee dribbles down my chin and I have to go get paper towel to clean my desk

[Leroy Peterson]

the amazing thing about myki is you can go to the CBD without touching-on, attempting to touch-off through the gate and when it doesnt work, go up to the person supervising and say its not working and they will (no questions asked) let you through. done it twice now. especially effective at peak hour when theres a queue.

Sorry, back on topic. Are we EPAing government vehicles yet?

[Odium]

Sorry, back on topic. Are we EPAing government vehicles yet?

No, we're not because that's a stupid idea....

False reports to combat false reports is disadvantageous to our goal... A review of the Guilty until Proven Innocent, even WITH evidence to the contrary, system that they're running.

[Plattsy]

No, we're not because that's a stupid idea....

False reports to combat false reports is disadvantageous to our goal... A review of the Guilty until Proven Innocent, even WITH evidence to the contrary, system that they're running.

speak for yourself simon. im on board.

[xALmoN]

Ha, you guys are amateurs. Before MYKI came in, it was a case of "Oh, me solly. Me no spick engleesh" whenever the inspectors came around. If you were a white caucasian male, probably wouldn't of worked. But because I'm an white caucasian male trapped in an asians body, it's very believable.

As soon as the inspector gets off the train, I'd be like "Damn flamin' snake in the grass, that was a close one mate. Ol' bugger almost ad' me"

i have a very convincing fob accent, because i am fob, but unfortunately, what i got was "it does not matter whether you understand me or not, you hav to follow the rules"

[T.D]

I don't often laugh out loud.

But when I do, my coffee dribbles down my chin and I have to go get paper towel to clean my desk

Sorry bro.

the amazing thing about myki is you can go to the CBD without touching-on, attempting to touch-off through the gate and when it doesnt work, go up to the person supervising and say its not working and they will (no questions asked) let you through. done it twice now. especially effective at peak hour when theres a queue.

Sorry, back on topic. Are we EPAing government vehicles yet?

No, we're not because that's a stupid idea....

False reports to combat false reports is disadvantageous to our goal... A review of the Guilty until Proven Innocent, even WITH evidence to the contrary, system that they're running.

speak for yourself simon. im on board.

EPA staff carpark dobbing IS STILL ON! Won't do it for a while yet though, cos I noticed the other day there was a "Anonymous" viewer of this thread. EPA is watching.....

i have a very convincing fob accent, because i am fob, but unfortunately, what i got was "it does not matter whether you understand me or not, you hav to follow the rules"

Ahhh my friend, you have plenty to learn.

You keep stringing it out for as long as possible and make it difficult for them to communicate with you to the point they drop a racist remark thinking you won't understand and then BOOM!!! You drop the accent and now you've got the mofo on the defence.

Long story short: he apologises, you nark up, he decides to drop the fine if you promise to not report him, EPA HQ blows up. Everyone wins. The End.

[xALmoN]

i concede. master.

[R31Nismoid]

(DUH! I wrote to you in the email saying I was there!) BUT not even close to the road/time I was apparently spotted on!

Ah see you told them TOO much. As with all negotiation and Govt body related - Only say what you need to.

Should've just given them proof about the 2-2.30pm part and left it at that. THEN play the next card if they made up another "approximation".

Still though - you are entitled to see who it was that made the report, and the paperwork associated under freedom of information.

I'd write another letter if you were NOT in the area at the said time, outlining it all and have a quick look at some freedom of information. Hell even put it in the letter they provide the proof of the report, as they are legally required to do

[Vera]

you're asian and you dont even know the art of fare evasion?

hold myki in hand, be vigilant, tap when you spot those kents outside.

Don't they dress up undercover occasionally? Im sure I've seen them handing out fines in hoodies

[T.D]

Don't they dress up undercover occasionally? Im sure I've seen them handing out fines in hoodies

Unfortunatley for them, I dress up undercover occasionally too............ as an asian village fisherman

i concede. master.

You have been trained my son. Now go forth and unleash your fare-evading fury!

Ah see you told them TOO much. As with all negotiation and Govt body related - Only say what you need to.

Should've just given them proof about the 2-2.30pm part and left it at that. THEN play the next card if they made up another "approximation".

Still though - you are entitled to see who it was that made the report, and the paperwork associated under freedom of information.

I'd write another letter if you were NOT in the area at the said time, outlining it all and have a quick look at some freedom of information. Hell even put it in the letter they provide the proof of the report, as they are legally required to do

In hindsight, yeah I did give them too much information. But having said that, I would not have imagined a governing body like EPA to take advantage of that and stoop that low in order to get someone (an innocent someone too mind you) to do an exhaust noise test.

I have tried and tried and tried, but they simply refuse to give any further detail in regards to the incident. Sounds very suss, but not a massive amount I can at this stage.

[blah_blah]

You need to be more authoritative

If it is 'law' that they are required to hand over that information.

Then find the section reference. And quote it when they say no. If you tell them they are required by law, I'm sure shitting of their dacks or let me get my manager for you will ensue.

[R31Nismoid]

In hindsight, yeah I did give them too much information. But having said that, I would not have imagined a governing body like EPA to take advantage of that and stoop that low in order to get someone (an innocent someone too mind you) to do an exhaust noise test.

I have tried and tried and tried, but they simply refuse to give any further detail in regards to the incident. Sounds very suss, but not a massive amount I can at this stage.

Police do it all the time with fines etc if they get details wrong, EPA doing the same comes as no surprise.

[Odium]

I was under the impression that if the details on the notice are incorrect, then the fine is incorrectly issued...

[R31Nismoid]

The power of people who don't know what they are talking about

All that happens is they just cancel it and reissue another, you don't get off on technicalities like that.