The Infirmary

[Mitcho_7]

Is it your lateral hammy (biceps femoris) thats the issue?

[Mitcho_7]

So an update on my injury. It was getting much better. Could lift my arm out sideways up till it was about level with my shoulder. Then at work yesterday I felt something pop in my shoulder and all the pain was back and I couldn't move move my arm out sideways at all. Went to the hospital after work. Got xrays done (this was the first time getting medical attention on the injury since I crashed, other than the ambos giving me a quick check over). Nothing out of place in the xrays. Then the doctor checked me out and thinks I have a partial tear/separation in the outer of the 2 bicep muscles. So I have to not use my arm for a week (which is hard when you have a job that is somewhat physical)

Did they look at your supraspinatus at all?

Shoulder abduction is its primary movement (specifically the initial part of the movement) so it would seem more logical that it is the issue...

[No Crust Racing]

Is it your lateral hammy (biceps femoris) thats the issue?

I dunno, looking from the back. It's the just above the back of the knee towards the outside.

Where you feel the tendon raise up when flexed.

[Mitcho_7]

Sounds like biceps femoris to me.

Your common peroneal nerve goes right through that area, its possible for the epineurium of the nerve to adhere to the fascia of the muscle and cause twinging with certain movements. Or it could simply be being compressed by the muscle.

get someone to do some neural tension testing on you like straight leg raises whike biasing certain nerves and see what they come up with.

[L33SH]

Mitch are you a physio or something?!

[No Crust Racing]

And if it was what things could I be trying?

[Birds]

Did they look at your supraspinatus at all?

Shoulder abduction is its primary movement (specifically the initial part of the movement) so it would seem more logical that it is the issue...

This...

Not being able to move arm past shoulder height is usually inflammation of supraspinatus...however there's likely an underlying issue that caused that in the first place; probably acromioclavicular issue.

[Mitcho_7]

Mitch are you a physio or something?!

nope, just a soft tissue therapist

[L33SH]

nope, just a soft tissue therapist

What does that involve?

[Birds]

Kleenex quality control

[Mitcho_7]

More or or less a remedial massage therapist

[L33SH]

More or or less a remedial massage therapist

I see, cool

I've got two trigger point sessions soon, fingers crossed it sorts me out.

[L33SH]

Has anyone here had cortisone injections or knowledgeable in the procedure?

On a side note, would it be appropriate to have injections a week before trigger point therapy or is that not a good idea?

Thank you

[mad082]

Did they look at your supraspinatus at all?

Shoulder abduction is its primary movement (specifically the initial part of the movement) so it would seem more logical that it is the issue...

No they didn't. I'm actually thinking it's more deltoid than bicep or suraspinatus, but there is definitely something going on with my bicep as well.

[mad082]

This...

Not being able to move arm past shoulder height is usually inflammation of supraspinatus...however there's likely an underlying issue that caused that in the first place; probably acromioclavicular issue.

My arm movement was slowly increasing. Everyday I was able to move my arm higher than the day before. As it is now I can get my arm to about 45 degrees (after I hurt it again on Saturday it hurt the moment I tried to move it in abduction.

The pain I get when I try to move it was shooting down my arm from my shoulder to my elbow. I'm guessing that's why the doctor was looking at my bicep. Now the pain is more around the outside of my shoulder (which is why I'm thinking deltoid). I was also under the impression that the deltoid was more responsible for lifting the arm through the majority of the arc up to horizontal, other than the initial movement which is the surp.

I do also have a small amount of inflammation and tenderness around the base of my shoulder blade. This was there from the initial crash, and didn't change when I aggravated the injury on Saturday (in fact it may have sped up the recovery). It was causing me all sorts of grief as it was pretty painful to start with which made sleeping uncomfortable as it hurt to lay on my back, either side or stomach.

[No Crust Racing]

Did you have your injections Leesh?

I've got a physio appointment today where she's expecting me to run on a treadmill for a while an see how it all looks (gait anaylsis) but I'm in two minds about if I do it given the hammy/lower back.

Speaking off, given I've done no leg work for well over a week now, no walking, nothing. I've even been bending over very carefully (weight on the other leg) and just generally protecting the hammy as much as I can, the twinge is slowly subsiding little by little. When the twinge is gone from every day activity I'll get into some stretching for it and take it from there, this is what I mean when I say reset the area which I think I mentioned once before. Stop ALL activity, wait, stretch, begin build up activities etc.

Takes a while but seems to work.

I also had a fairly uncomfortable myo session including some dry needling that actually made me jump a few times and I never have before so it was fairly tender in there.

[L33SH]

Hey Dan

No I just got some anti inflammatory tablets and will wait until after trigger point on Monday then reassess the situation. It's feeling better, still in pain but I can move my arm more freely now; just hurts alot at night time/trying to sleep.

Good luck with your physio appointment.

So hard to give up all form of exercise. Last night I really had to distract myself from the fact I wasn't at the gym (when I think about I get really upset and teary). I know deep down that I am doing the right thing though.

I'm using my foam roller now and bands for stretching and hopefully I can get back into gym in a couple of weeks, fingers crossed!

[L33SH]

So after seeing someone else today it's confirmed thoracic spine injury. Now I need help with next course of treatment? Booking chiro tomorrow; is this the only source of treatment I should seek out now? I do have another trigger point booked next week which I will just go to because it's not going to do any harm. Pretty devastated at the moment

[rev210]

You can get better with that injury i have had it myself a long time ago. just takes rest and gentle mobillity. You will come back stronger Too.

[L33SH]

Chiro or physio?