kyle345 Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 Has anyone set up a pod filter inside their air box for cool air because of the feed to the front?I look at my airbox in the R34 but it seems like one wouldnt be able to fit, any suggestions? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/423838-r34-pod-filter/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
WYTSKY Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 highflow panel filter /thread Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/423838-r34-pod-filter/#findComment-6821708 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyle345 Posted April 19, 2013 Author Share Posted April 19, 2013 highflow panel filter /thread Where can i get one of those? Prices? Are they less restrictive than the standard paper filters? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/423838-r34-pod-filter/#findComment-6821718 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WYTSKY Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 http://lmgtfy.com/?q=k%26n+high+flow+panel+filter Autobarn, supercheap, repco. Most people notice some form of marginal improvement. It is less restrictive. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/423838-r34-pod-filter/#findComment-6821730 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyle345 Posted April 19, 2013 Author Share Posted April 19, 2013 (edited) http://lmgtfy.com/?q=k%26n+high+flow+panel+filter Autobarn, supercheap, repco. Most people notice some form of marginal improvement. It is less restrictive. Im pretty sure i have a panel filter in already, i just assumed they are stock. Would you say its less restrictive than a pod? And with panel filters is it true you have to oil them? (people are saying different things) Edited April 19, 2013 by kyle345 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/423838-r34-pod-filter/#findComment-6821736 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLUID Posted April 20, 2013 Share Posted April 20, 2013 If you have your stock setup you do indeed have a panel filter already installed, not a highflow panel filter (different to stock) I Needed a new filter not long ago, so I upgraded to a K&N Highflow. I think I have noticed a small difference, but I'm yet to give it some at a track etc.. $80.00 from Autobarn, just go in and ask for a HIGHFLOW PANEL FILTER for your r34. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/423838-r34-pod-filter/#findComment-6822171 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyle345 Posted April 20, 2013 Author Share Posted April 20, 2013 If you have your stock setup you do indeed have a panel filter already installed, not a highflow panel filter (different to stock) I Needed a new filter not long ago, so I upgraded to a K&N Highflow. I think I have noticed a small difference, but I'm yet to give it some at a track etc.. $80.00 from Autobarn, just go in and ask for a HIGHFLOW PANEL FILTER for your r34. Thanks mate bought one today for $80 I have to say! I can defs notice acceleration has changed, it feels a bit more torquey and the fact that the filter lasts a life time is great, just needs to be cleaned and recoated with oil. By far the best thing ive done to my car performance wise Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/423838-r34-pod-filter/#findComment-6822183 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bozodos Posted April 20, 2013 Share Posted April 20, 2013 I thought that MCM tested this and found that stock > aftermarket panel + pod filters! Ideally something that would simplify your inlet tract so you get less pressure drop from the intake charge would be best Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/423838-r34-pod-filter/#findComment-6822582 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyle345 Posted April 20, 2013 Author Share Posted April 20, 2013 I thought that MCM tested this and found that stock > aftermarket panel + pod filters! Ideally something that would simplify your inlet tract so you get less pressure drop from the intake charge would be best Nah from what ive seen MCM have tested Pod Filters, the reason why you get the drop in power is because they arent getting a constant air feed unless you have it mounted away from the engine down the bottom somewhere, but then u run the risk of sucking up water so its not worth it. Where as when you have a high flow panel filter, its sitting in your air box and its less restrictive than your standard panel filter. Your getting a constant cold air feed from the front, ( same as if you were to mount a pod filter in the air box if it fits ). Personally as soon as i put this in, you can definitely feel a slight difference in acceleration, it picks up a lot better and have this is also supposed to improve your fuel economy because your getting more air through the inlet. I wouldnt touch a pod filter on a naturally aspirated car Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/423838-r34-pod-filter/#findComment-6822595 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad082 Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 from my experience, the difference between highflow panel filters and stock filters can vary between makes of car. the design of the intake and airbox, as well as the filter itself, will determine whether you will get any gains from changing the filter at all. i've change the filter of various cars i've owned over the years. some hasn't made a scrap of difference, others have made a noticable difference (not a huge difference, but you could notice the difference). 1 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/423838-r34-pod-filter/#findComment-6823016 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBS206 Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 ANd now since you run a oil coated filter, welcome to the world of constantly cleaning your AFM. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/423838-r34-pod-filter/#findComment-6823092 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyle345 Posted April 21, 2013 Author Share Posted April 21, 2013 ANd now since you run a oil coated filter, welcome to the world of constantly cleaning your AFM. You only have to do it every 50,000 miles Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/423838-r34-pod-filter/#findComment-6823410 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bozodos Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 To my mind, doing these kind of mods on N/A Skylines is on the same sort of level as V6 Commodore owners putting on underdriven pulleys and plenum spacers. There may be some tiny tiny gain from it, but really you'd just be better off leaving it and saving your money for other hobbies / your next car. 1 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/423838-r34-pod-filter/#findComment-6823477 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanaldo Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 (edited) Nah from what ive seen MCM have tested Pod Filters, the reason why you get the drop in power is because they arent getting a constant air feed unless you have it mounted away from the engine down the bottom somewhere, but then u run the risk of sucking up water so its not worth it. Where as when you have a high flow panel filter, its sitting in your air box and its less restrictive than your standard panel filter. Your getting a constant cold air feed from the front, ( same as if you were to mount a pod filter in the air box if it fits ). Personally as soon as i put this in, you can definitely feel a slight difference in acceleration, it picks up a lot better and have this is also supposed to improve your fuel economy because your getting more air through the inlet. I wouldnt touch a pod filter on a naturally aspirated car Ahhh the placebo effect. The only flaw in the otherwise very accurate readings of the butt dyno. Also, getting more air through the inlet doesn't improve your fuel economy. There is a thing called the air:fuel ratio. Getting more air in means you can get more fuel in and hence make more power, but it doesn't improve economy. You only have to do it every 50,000 miles Yes. Until reality ruins theory. Edited April 22, 2013 by Hanaldo Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/423838-r34-pod-filter/#findComment-6824241 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyle345 Posted April 22, 2013 Author Share Posted April 22, 2013 Ahhh the placebo effect. The only flaw in the otherwise very accurate readings of the butt dyno. Also, getting more air through the inlet doesn't improve your fuel economy. There is a thing called the air:fuel ratio. Getting more air in means you can get more fuel in and hence make more power, but it doesn't improve economy. Yes. Until reality ruins theory. Yeah the perfect fuel/air ratio i believe is 14.7 parts air / 1 part fuel and diesel being 14.5 / 1 but what im saying is having a high flow filter actually increases your fuel economy because its getting a lot more air easily than what your standard filter would. Not saying its a huge difference, but it does. Just like putting in new spark plugs or cleaning them up good. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/423838-r34-pod-filter/#findComment-6824244 Share on other sites More sharing options...
niZmO_Man Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 ANd now since you run a oil coated filter, welcome to the world of constantly cleaning your AFM. This. $15 standard paper element filter FTW. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/423838-r34-pod-filter/#findComment-6824288 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanaldo Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Yeah the perfect fuel/air ratio i believe is 14.7 parts air / 1 part fuel and diesel being 14.5 / 1 but what im saying is having a high flow filter actually increases your fuel economy because its getting a lot more air easily than what your standard filter would. Not saying its a huge difference, but it does. Just like putting in new spark plugs or cleaning them up good. Well that's stoich, but the perfect AFR depends on the conditions. Ie, 14.7 at full load is gonna be real lean. Again, in theory, yes. You are improving the efficiency of your motor and therefore your fuel efficiency should improve. In reality, unless you had a super restrictive or dirty air filter, just changing the air filter alone isn't going to make any noticeable difference to your economy. Nor will it really affect your power. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/423838-r34-pod-filter/#findComment-6824292 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRIRAQ Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 i have an n/a r34 and i had the normal panel filter before and now i have a pod filter with the stock airbox nozzle giving cold air feed.. tbh same shit. i don't think anything changed, same shit. ohh on windy cold (nights)the pod filter sucks in alot of air.. otherwise same shit. you can do it to make your engine bay look *cooler* if that's your thing, but that's about all that will really change hah . also don't spend your money trying to modify your n/a to make it faster, it's such a waste... 1000$ (with ur own labor- spitfire coilpacks and extractors) will do absolute shit only 20hp, so you realize what a waste it is. as for changing exhaust if you find a cheap second hand exhaust for 200buxs then change it, otherwise... all i can tell you is i got literally one of the best exhausts for my n/a 34 which is a 2.5 kakimoto n1 full exhaust and it's so friken loud, that it makes 113db, and is defectable so badly... and your friends will know you arrived when your a kilometer away... and when you stick the silencer in, your car feels like someone is chocking it. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/423838-r34-pod-filter/#findComment-6824355 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyle345 Posted April 22, 2013 Author Share Posted April 22, 2013 i have an n/a r34 and i had the normal panel filter before and now i have a pod filter with the stock airbox nozzle giving cold air feed.. tbh same shit. i don't think anything changed, same shit. ohh on windy cold (nights)the pod filter sucks in alot of air.. otherwise same shit. you can do it to make your engine bay look *cooler* if that's your thing, but that's about all that will really change hah . also don't spend your money trying to modify your n/a to make it faster, it's such a waste... 1000$ (with ur own labor- spitfire coilpacks and extractors) will do absolute shit only 20hp, so you realize what a waste it is. as for changing exhaust if you find a cheap second hand exhaust for 200buxs then change it, otherwise... all i can tell you is i got literally one of the best exhausts for my n/a 34 which is a 2.5 kakimoto n1 full exhaust and it's so friken loud, that it makes 113db, and is defectable so badly... and your friends will know you arrived when your a kilometer away... and when you stick the silencer in, your car feels like someone is chocking it. Thats why i didnt use a pod, im not one of those p platers that go around "Woah dude check out my new pod! Makes it so much more powerful". Everyone knows how hard it is to actually get a pod to receive cool air, obvs if your doing what your doing is good or sticking it in the standard air box if you can. Id love a kakimoto exhaust but again yeah im saving money for when i get turbo, thats why im trying to find a cheap pair of GOOD rims cuz atm the previous owner stuck 17 chromies on it..... so idk what to do, im not gonna spend $1000 on rims... Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/423838-r34-pod-filter/#findComment-6824374 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanaldo Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Thats why i didnt use a pod, im not one of those p platers that go around "Woah dude check out my new pod! Makes it so much more powerful". Everyone knows how hard it is to actually get a pod to receive cool air, obvs if your doing what your doing is good or sticking it in the standard air box if you can. Id love a kakimoto exhaust but again yeah im saving money for when i get turbo, thats why im trying to find a cheap pair of GOOD rims cuz atm the previous owner stuck 17 chromies on it..... so idk what to do, im not gonna spend $1000 on rims... Junk the whole thing. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/423838-r34-pod-filter/#findComment-6824393 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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