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Posting on behalf of a mate

Hes in the market for a track car and some times drags, hes currently tossing up between either the 32 or 33 GTSTs.

The car will be completly stripped and will run a mild RB25 and manual in which he already has in his shed.

Brakes will be upgraded to 33 GTR items again as he already has them.

Is there any benifets going a 32 or 33 over one another? knowing they will both run the same engine and brakes plus be stripped?

Is it to easy to say the 32 will be better due to the lighter weight to begin with?

any other benifets from one or the other?

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stripped down there will be bugger all weight difference between the 2. the 32 may be a fraction lighter, but not much. it's only about 50kg in road going spec, so stripped down i'd say it would be less, given that some of the weight difference between a 32 and 33 is from the heavier rb25 engine, gearbox, etc, which would all be going into the 32 anyway. but the 33 has better suspension as said, and it may well be a bit more aero dynamic, so faster.

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I have a R33 GTS-T, just finished it actually. I have now tracked it twice and gotta say it's a great thing.

It's not overly powerful (280kw) or light for that matter (1300kgs) but it's fairly quick for what it is. (1:44 EC full circuit)

It's something I could drive all day in an enduro or similar, very user friendly and easy to pedal.

I always thought the 33 were the ugly ducklings, but I've really grown to like this one.

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Thanks mate

I took him in my full weight R33 GTR 333kws at mallanats and he wants something nearly comparable.

So his goal would have to be around a stripped fully car with near 400kws and drag slicks i should imagine to be comparable?

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A stripped GTS-T would be almost 200kg lighter than a full weight GTR so there's no way he'll need 400kw to be comparable.

I would think 300kw would be enough given the weight difference. All he'd need to do is work out how to get the power through two wheels effectively.

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R33 far better car in just about every way bar looks. If you have a tuff looking 33 than that's a win all round. I have a r32 race car and have owned quit a few road going 32 but I wont buy another one. R33 or 34 is the go.

You will never get a gtst to put power down the way a gtr does. My tuner runs the fastest track skyline around our area and while that is a gtst and eats all gtrs he has driven Plenty of gtrs and can't believe how fast they accelerate out of corners ect. It's just different and can't be matched.

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The RWD Gtst can get the power down just fine when the suspension is done right.

I wouldn't say the R33 has massively better suspension, its improved but still has the fundamental problems of the R32 still.

The R33 body shell is only beefier in the rear strut area. Otherwise they are very much the same as the R32.

After doing brightys R33 I think the 33 has a lot of potential to be a good thing.

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