Greddy Emanage Ultimate Maps

[jase_c]

I took my R34 Gtt in to get tuned on monday, the usual stage one mods, (Front mount, 3" exhaust with dump, pod filter, cold air box, apexi avc-r and flowed turbo plus water/Methanol injection and a Greddy Emanage ultimate controlling it) and when my tuner hooked the car up to the laptop the emanage needed an update on the software. As soon as that was done the car shat itself basically and the update either corrupted the emanage or the tune i had in there already. The car would run but wouldnt idle at all and was belching unburnt fuel. I had to bypass the emanage and run off the stock computer to get the car home and now that my maps are corrupted or changed they are basically useless.

I was wondering if anyone out there may have an emanage in their auto Gtt and may be able to help me out by sending me a copy of their map files so i have a reasonable base map to start from again so i am not paying shitloads of dyno time to get my car running well again as i am already down one full days tuning $$ and took a massive step backwards.

Really hope someone can help me out.

[scotty nm35]

If you update the software you need to update the Emanage Ultimate or it won't work. The map should be fine if you still have a copy...

[jase_c]

If you update the software you need to update the Emanage Ultimate or it won't work. The map should be fine if you still have a copy...

The software on the emanage ultimate was updated thsts what stuffed everything.

[scotty nm35]

The software and the firmware both need to be upgraded at the same time.

Try reloading the old version if you have issues.

[jase_c]

Will try reloading both of them and see if it helps, thanks

[jase_c]

No one has a map for one of these that they could help me out with?

[Kenna802]

If you have stock injectors etc.. you don't need a map for it to idle. Is your AFM the normal type for the motor ? And yes you need to do 2 updates one for the software and one for unit.

Please note if you have a laptop with windows 8 good luck... In order for it to work you need non usb 3.0 and since Microsoft only have the drivers for windows 8 it stops them working all together. I found with windows 7 u need a virtual machine running xp with 2.0 drivers ( you can just uninstall the 3.0 drivers and it reverts back to 2.0 )

Sounds like you need to plug your laptop in and connect to your Emanage and check to see if the basics are setup ( engine type..AFM type, CAS angle sensor, ) re do those also are the toggle switches that turn your maps on on the unit turned on? ( the little yellow ones on the side of the unit ) ill send u a pm with my mob no as it easier to talk than to type. Cheers

Edited June 1, 2013 by Kenna802

[jase_c]

Everything was running fine(and the basics are still setup ) and had been setup since i got the car but after the update it wont run properly and it wouldnt let us in to save the maps before it updated so i have nothing to fall back on or to compare the maps to now so i can pinpoint whether the unit itself is the problem or if it changed the maps or how it is reading them (if that makes sense)

[Kenna802]

just curious did it update to 2.20?

[jase_c]

re updated to 2.20 on both the laptop and the emanage unit and no difference, runs rough and when you blip the throttle it dies, disconnect the emanage and go back to the stock ecu and it runs fine. WTF???

[r33canada]

i updated mine to 2.30.

and it shat itself the next day. it would idle fine and drive. but when i put my foot down more than half way it would sputter and not rev, so i did the same at the moment, went back to stock for now.

I'll figure it out when i get my car back from my mechanic.

I have a feeling that the update changed something slightly and the car didnt like it. yea i know, thats not a big help and a very big guess. but its all i have.

i'll let you know what i find out.

[jase_c]

yep yours sounds pretty much what mines doing Canada, sort of what i was thinking, that it changed something or maybe the update corrupted something in the units? i changed the maps back to default (all values 0.0) and still the same.

[Kenna802]

Im pretty sure that update 2.30 isn't good I have a vague memory of my unit not liking it so I went back to using 220

[jase_c]

Yeh im back at 2.20 and it hasn't helped, might try taking each factory sensor off the emanage seperately and running it off the stock ecu to see if that will pinpoint where the problem is in the emanage.

[jase_c]

So i did a data log on the Emanage today and can see where the problem is, just not whats causing it. When i give the throttle a little blip (around 15%) the output injector duty is hitting 100% and the rpm is only 1300 or so. even when idling the input and output values are a bit different even though the values on the map table are 0.0

Anyone else had problems after the software update that totally screwed the unit?

Edited June 3, 2013 by jase_c

[scotty nm35]

Yes, mine did a similar thing, when I reloaded both firmware and software it came good. (this was with v2.20, around 3 years ago) I would have thought dropping back to v2.20 would have fixed it.

[r33canada]

i'll post the links to my data log and what my car was doing. i think i need to start from scratch. set everything back up as if it was the first time.

I had enough issues with v220 and getting my car to run. one thing that i had with my setup was the car wouldnt run right with the settings at stock value for injectors so i have to play with the injector settings up until it would run normal.

what are stock injectors? 370 or something. i think i had to set mine at either 440 or 550 or something. i think it was whatever the gtr stock injectors were.

anyway i will go through it all whenever i get my car back. i was really interested in this update. was liking the fact that autotune was going to work properly on it own.

(watch in 720p so you can read it)

[jase_c]

Lol, sounds like a 13b rotary with a port job

Might try going back to the original version of the software and see if it helps

[r33canada]

i miss my rx7 sometimes haha yea let me know if you can figure it out

[jase_c]

I am going back to original disk software v1.4 to check that out