What Is 'too Much' Power For The Street?

[Albus]

I haven't seen a thread like this before and I'm also curious myself.

What would you call too much power at the wheels in a car to be stupid, and undriveable on the road environment for a daily driver?

This post is directed at Skylines (32-34).

Post in KiloWatts (kW).

Edited June 4, 2013 by Qorx

[PJ.]

No such thing for an AWD

[nomnomv8]

All depends on the car.. A 400rwkw Silvia is alot more silly than a 400awkw GTR.

Perfect daily street car would be a mild low 300kw GTR (-7s or -9s). Standard looking engine bay, relatively reliable, mid - high 11s quater mile on street tyres and not all that expensive to build. Once you wind up the power things tend to go bang..

In saying that low 300's does get boring

Edited June 4, 2013 by nomnomv8

[Albus]

Modified my main post a little bit to be a bit more specific. I'd probably have my daily around 500-600 so it is good for track as well as the road and won't need 2 cars.

#@nomnomv8 - I sent you a PM regarding something, check it and reply.

Edited June 4, 2013 by Qorx

[jays r33 gtr]

  On 04/06/2013 at 8:43 PM, PJ. said:

No such thing for an AWD

i have to agree with PJ on this AWD is totally diffrent

[ARTZ]

You much power its driveability..there is nothing wrong with 700kw in a rear wheel drive if you

1. Know how to drive

2.can make that much power and still have an engine that is easy to drive.

Often though it will end up a pig motor because big cams, you much lag etc making it uncomfortable to use on the street...but if you can make it with nice low down torque and an easy throttle the limits are endless..there's is plenty of 1000hp plus street cars out there that are RWD...actually I'd say the majority of them are, very few of them are what you would consider a daily though...But you don't need an extra diff, just big sticky rear tyres.

[34GeeTeeTee]

I've been running 360 for quite a while in RWD and recently cracked 391... You can't use the power on the street as there is too much risk with cops etc these days so in saying that it's nice to cruise around in as it drives like stock! Mine is nice and responsive around town so the speed limit can be reached quickly

[Albus]

What about GT-R, awds?

[ARTZ]

What about them?

Matt stop bragging about your power already.

[ARTZ]

Btw, why is there no "100kw" option.. Because my Ute hasn't even got 100kws atw and it breaks the speed limit all the time...and because there is no weight in the back it can light up 4th at 80kms In the wet, does this mean i have "too much power"

This thread is dumb and I feel dumb for posting here

[Albus]

What would be the most you'd run street in an awd?

[34GeeTeeTee]

  On 04/06/2013 at 9:34 PM, ARTZ said:

What about them?

Matt stop bragging about your power already.

Lol NO

And no, there is no set power figure that is too much for a GTR, at the end of the day it's all about the drivers right foot and ONCE you go past a certain power level the car starts becoming a serious bit of gear and it's only a matter of time until you are defected or arrested lol

[ARTZ]

What's with all this AWD bullshit...most 1000hp+ street cars are RWD...I guarantee it...

There is no such thing as too much power, only too much pressure applied to the power pedal

[Albus]

Cleared, now we can just keep this discussion open for anyone that wants to state there opinions or wants to rant.

[nomnomv8]

  On 04/06/2013 at 9:46 PM, ARTZ said:

What's with all this AWD bullshit...most 1000hp+ street cars are RWD...I guarantee it...

There is no such thing as too much power, only too much pressure applied to the power pedal

Yeh most 1000hp+ "Street Cars" (if thats what you can even call them...) are RWD but then again most 1000hp "street cars" would get annihilated off the set of lights by a standard falcon..

I agree with you comment on pressure applied to the gas pedal but this loses its argument when you start talking high end applications where the car becomes a slug in most normal driving conditions (not on full boost) no matter how hard you press the pedal...

High powered AWD you can put you foot down flat stick and know it will put the power down (mostly anyways), RWD you put your foot down and very quickly you start backing off as your rear end starts trailing and chugging smoke. Heck Ive sat in my mates datto when hes loaded up the stallie rolling at 90kmh and the second it lets go hold the fark on cause your skating all over the place.. Fun but not exactly ideal !

[XGTRX]

What's your definition of street? If it's daily peak hour and cruising your better off being off boost and having a compliant clutch. Then you can have any power level you want because you will never use it. Clutch is the big thing though or you will get over it very quickly. Getting off the lights quick will be just a matter of knowing your car and even at partial boost you will still be quicker that anything else on the road and no wheel spin.

Edited June 4, 2013 by XGTRX

[34GeeTeeTee]

  On 04/06/2013 at 11:25 PM, XGTRX said:

What's your definition of street? If it's daily peak hour and cruising your better off being off boost and having a compliant clutch. Then you can have any power level you want because you will never use it. Clutch is the big thing though or you will get over it very quickly. Getting off the lights quick will be just a matter of knowing your car and even at partial boost you will still be quicker that anything else on the road and no wheel spin.

Agreed on the clutch topic, I chose the JB single which can take all sorts of power levels but can drive like a normal clutch in most cases...

[C4a0s]

yeah i think there's no such thing as too much power for the street...

it all depends on ur driving style and tune.. and your personal comfort level. I used a 500nm S13 with twin plate clutch as a daily...didnt bother me much although friends said it was too harsh and noisy for their taste..

[Leroy Peterson]

  On 04/06/2013 at 9:30 PM, ARTZ said:

2.can make that much power and still have an engine that is easy to drive.

Agreed.

Clutch, cams and brakes annoy me the most for street driving on a heavily modified car.

I know people who have sold high-powered cars for even weekend-only driving because you cant have fun in it driving around the 'burbs. Hit boost in 2nd and you're already speeding and stuck behind people. A friend of mine sold his 420kw MA70 supra just because he couldnt have sensible fun in it without major repurcussions. "Bring on an NA" he said.

[XGTRX]

  On 05/06/2013 at 12:05 AM, Leroy Peterson said:

  On 04/06/2013 at 9:30 PM, ARTZ said:

2.can make that much power and still have an engine that is easy to drive.

Agreed.

 

Clutch, cams and brakes annoy me the most for street driving on a heavily modified car.

 

I know people who have sold high-powered cars for even weekend-only driving because you cant have fun in it driving around the 'burbs. Hit boost in 2nd and you're already speeding and stuck behind people. A friend of mine sold his 420kw MA70 supra just because he couldnt have sensible fun in it without major repurcussions. "Bring on an NA" he said.

NA cars are no better if there not set up right.

I have both and a hi stalled cammed LS2 is great to drive in peak hour because the torque is low below 2500rpm. My 33 gtr is also great because torque is delivered progressively up to about 3500. At 4000 in the NA where the converter flashes to and from 3500 in the 33 all hell breaks loose ha ha. Just the way I like it. Both need to be driven with light progressive throttle in traffic. Both brilliant allrounders.