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Wow...just wow :blink:

Having been on a track day with this guy I'm thanking my lucky stars that he was in a different group to me :ph34r:

I was in that group, there were a few kamakazi drivers there and almost got cleaned out by a few of them, he just happened to be the chosen one who pushed it too far and assumed wrongly. Packed up my stuff and left half way through the day after the incident as its not worth risking my car.

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Not the organisers fault as they can only do so much. But hope that the guys really bust balls at the next driver briefing as I have always loved attending their well run days. If people think because they are faster than me I don't deserve to be on the same track as them despite having paid the same entry fee....and they are not told to pull their head in by clerk of course then I will soon voice my concerns and go home as well :(

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Realistically if people know who this person actually is... Should be highlighted to AASA / CAMS & see to it the license should perhaps be cancelled. Person clearly have a warped perception of what is safe and it's not only putting themselves in danger and more incidents, but other people as well.

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Give the guy a chance to learn from his mistake....up to officials to report him and note on his licence. Not sure we have enough info to lynch the guy But if you supply the beers then i can hunt around for some tar and feathers

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Give the guy a chance to learn from his mistake....up to officials to report him and note on his licence. Not sure we have enough info to lynch the guy But if you supply the beers then i can hunt around for some tar and feathers

different events across the state, different officials - different organisers. Never going to get the same people.

The only common point is the guys attitude/skill is just wrong! Even if it's just to sit him down in front of a few people to tell him it has to stop before there is more damage - perhaps even a death by putting someone into a wall?

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If its the bloke who I narrowed it down to, he is not new, and competed in many events in many types of cars.

Attitude is the issue. Not lack of experience.

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The Gumtree ad said sold. lol.

If its the bloke who I narrowed it down to, he is not new, and competed in many events in many types of cars.

Attitude is the issue. Not lack of experience.

^ This. Although I thought you said Evotards couldn't drive to save themselves... :P

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As someone who enjoys those tampered days I'd really like to know who the guy is (someone PM me), though the car is easy enough to identify.

I commented on the MX-5 youtube vid yesterday about how he was in the wrong and the comment was deleted, another similar comment appeared this morning which I've replied to so we'll see how long they last.

No doubt the camera car is in the wrong and if the guy can run a 27 around Winton he must be able to steer half decently, that sayd nothing for his etiquette or as I mentioned on Youtube his racecraft.

I know my times well and report them honestly but I always find I am in a category with cars that are considerably faster and slower than me which makes me wonder if some people either don't know their times or report them inaccurately so they can feel awesome blasting past everyone. I've said before I think the groups should be re-ordered part way through the day as drivers put down faster times.

I get, and try to abide by, the passing on straights only or only when waved through but I'll admit that there's been times when I've been on a hot lap and know it's a good time where I've taken a greater risk to pass someone at speed on a corner who did not wave me through, partly because it's costing me money to be there and I'm there to set times and partly because sometimes people have you sit behind them for half the bloody track before they will wave you through.

The issue is also one of balance as you get things like XR6 Turbos hammering down straights then holding you up through every corner, as the MX-5 guys will be acutely aware.

I think there should be much stricter adherence to groupings based on lap times run not just reported and that people running beyond a certain time should be classified as being experience drivers who should know better and be punished accordingly when they get it so badly wrong.

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It really isn't that hard to work out.

I don't think posting name and shame is helpful for the reputation of this forum. Discussion on the video sure, but if you need a instant mob, PF is best.

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