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As someone above stated previously, racing can get very expensive and to do it properly requires bulk money to be competitive.

As someone who has done State level Rallying, Street car racing( a class at Wanners in W Aust) Speedway, Targa Tasmania and the Enjo SES I found the time I had at Pt Gawler last year to be a great breath of fresh air.

There is a distinct lack of officialdom and it's very * run what ya brung* without having to spend lots of Moola on all the things that CAMS hold dear plus running a homologated/legal/FIA type vehicle.

I agree that there are very few ( compared to the population) GOOD drifters around but with the new impetus from various states it will become more acceptable. The skill required in controlling a smooth oversteer followed by a quick flick into a tightening radius corner is considerable and rates right up there with abilities required in the other disciplines of the sport.

I/we are doing our best to get the drifting series off the ground in WA and have run a few training days at the MC venue which if nothing else , has shown about 50 people who attended and quite a few hundred spectators that even the simple control skills are not as easy as they think...

To cut to the chase , drifting is here to stay because it gives the young/poor a chance to strut their stuff to an appreciative audience . I agree it would be great to have a drift training park setup in each state. Hell they put skateboard parks in for the few juvenile delinquents so why not ?

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Ken

As long as it's kept off the roads..............amature nob jockeys drifting is a great thing! the odds of wiping out your car is good and it's a great way to keep tool's out of cars.

drifting needs to become official then official rules and definitions of what a drift actually is, can be established............

Paladin, I believe CAMS (Cretins Against Motor Sport) is already working toward this.....so it will be F**ked over pretty quick so as not to compete with supertaxis.

Ken, the breath of fresh air from minimum officials involvement aside, when you have all of that official support at a big event, and have poured heart and soul into getting to state and national rallies or state sports sedans or formula ford racing, you kind of start to think "well is this the BIG time?". I've always felt thats what sets serious drivers apart from the hoons. Submitting to controls and earning/developing respect else we lose the credibility to do what we love....racing.

A good powerslide well controlled is still a huge grin factor though. Remember Larry Perkins at Oran park over the bridge on the outside and sliiiiding :P Brought the house down. LEGEND.

Humm, I find in interesting that people say it would cost more to race on a racetrack than it would to drift around a track.

Any car can be drifted, but you can't just drift any stocko car around and expect it to stay on the track for long you always need to do the suspension before drifting in any car.

I would think that with racing you simply pay and go around the track as best as you can, with a stocko car no mods needed, sure you'll only get 2-3 goes around the track before having to stop for 1-2 hours but at least you can do racing without any mods at all.

I myself would prefer to race straight lines around the track and that's what I also do out on the road as well.

I want to know what all the 'American hype' is?

Ok, sure the dubbed version of Initial D is crap but where are the American influences? I can't see any and all the hype I know of started with JMS then continued from the latenight street drifters getting around Adelaide through the first drift day at mallala in 2000 through the Port Gawler days and now the ClubPSI days that are being held.

Is there a huge US influence on the East Coast?

well back in the day its sorta like drifting was kept to people who had imports. I remember when I bought my 180sx it was an ex amature drift car... I remember askin the guy "wtf is drift?". He showed me a couple of Drift Tengoku vids and I was like "ohhhh". My 180 had the sharpest cornering and the wildest arse of any car I've ever driven, to the point where I detuned it coz it made the ride intolerable.

You had the JMS drift days and the small scale drift comps kept to those that were in the know. Now that the US has found drifting as the new cool thing to do, like scissor doors and neons, all the mags are toutin it as the best thing to ever happen. And what's worse is kids who read these mags think they can do it too in the FF cars or their bog stock silvias n other rust banger imports.

There are benefits to it being publicised with better venues and organisations opening up to people, but along with it comes the bad that everyone wants to do it, but unfortunately not everyone has the skill to do it. This arseclown that took out my letter box is the same kid that used to do burnouts and fishies down the stretch of my road about 4 months ago... now all he talks about is drift.

Hehe while I was workin on my car today his mates were over at his house lookin at his "drift damaged car".

To be honest i have disliked drifting since i first heard of it, even to a point where i was getting real annoyed at HPi writing too many articles to do with it. I now accept it and can enjoy watching it if its being done properly but it is the hype that f*cks it up. Everyday i hear a mate say "look at those drift wheels" or "thatd be a mad car to drift in". Youngn's are even planning there cars (and even older guys) by how good it is at drifting (which most of the time is just a reputation anyway). Id prefer to watch a well setup car get some good lines around tsukuba and break some lap-time record personally. I even know of a group of guys who spend nights 'drifting' the streets, which is soo dangerous it aint even funny.

I'm glad though that the feelings are generally mutual, at one point i thought i must of been the only friggin person that didnt really get a kick out of all the drift hype. In the end each to there own i guess, but drift aint for me.

Its kinda funny to think about ppl spending money on susp that reaults inthe car not being able to get its power to the ground...if i could abuse my car and not care what a delaminatign tyre would do to my guards, paint, bouncing of rev limiters sideways killing engine and diff and tyres etc etc, i think i could perhaps enjoy drift...but to me its protracted automotive suicide, something just has to let go.

I genuinely believe light track work is easier on the car and hip pocket, and perhaps even mroe fun because of the speed and lateral/braking forces/loadings... a different type of fun.

In the times i have taken my car to the track the only problems i have had is exhaust gasket and broken ignition barrel (????) ...oh and i did run out of pads one time, but thats because im a blonde.

Like anything in life. It takes practice. Too many young folks watch a few DVD's/MPEGS/AVI's and think it's all easy-peasy-japanesey. If they've got abit more brians they'll read up on it and then they consider themselves an expert.

A family friend of mine brought a turbo Starion and went "drifting" on the day he brought the car in an industrial area (wonder where this influence came from?). Result? Rolled the car twice. The next time I seee him I'll probably lecture him.

Lately I'm noticing a lot more AE86's with young faces in it. Anyone else notice this?

well your going to have to accept teh fact that drift is a fad to many people. And like all fad's its going to go away eventually when something else takes over. I think the reason its so popular is because its a fairly cheap form of motorsport to get into that isn't entirely based on the performance level of your car but rather the abilities of the driver. Of course the cars going to have to have some suspension work done on it but in reality you don't need to spend bucketloads of cash trying to get as much power as you can.

Generalizing "drift" itself as a bad thing is not good. Just because some idiot smacked into your letter box doesn't make drift bad, it makes that kid a retard. Like all forms of motorsports there are people who are going to go about them entirely in the wrong way. Just like hte idiots that gather in dandy to go for some street drags to the morons who drift on busy public roads, theres always going to be stupid individuals who give motorsports a bad name.

you people havnt seen a real drifter in australia by the looks of it.

I have, he was doin a dance with the promo girls at calder on the Drift nationals day lol. Then we bought an rb26 ceffy off one of his mates in japan (his D1 drift practice car).

and no, i love watching pro drifting, what i have issues with as the topic says is with this fad that people think they're a pro drfter coz they canb do shkids.

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