I hate the drift hype!

[drifto]

Just another thing.

To reply to the posts regarding how Speed magazine thinks a drift car should be built and anyone else who thinks you need to spend lots of moneyto do it, think again.

If anyone here went to the recent practise drift day at Eastern Creek run by Intitial Drift you will have remembered my Brothers Blue 4 door R31 skyline.

Bought for $ 1500 he chopped the springs (for looks only) , welded the diff center up and bought some spare rims and cheap tyres from Pick and Payless.

Oh, yeah and put a pod airfilter on and disconnected the exhaust for track stuff.

So for less then $2000 he's out there showing everyone how to do it and it's a stock RB30 atmo with a locked diff.

So don't think you can't get in to this sport without a dedicated drift car or specific drift set up. Someone here mentioned you cannot drift a car that is set up for drags.

Thats just dumb, my 32 can do circuit laps, go to the drags and do a drift day. Sure it's not going to be ideal for every event, but it's still there doing them all and i'm having a ball in a car that is built to be driven.

1min 12sec at wakefield on street tyres

13.2 1/4 mile on street tyres

Drift is about style and i've got plenty. lol

[funkymonkey]

FUNKYMONKEY it sounds like you don't enjoy drifting, that's OK. But don't be so narrow-minded.

lol far from it, I used to own an amature drifter's strawberry face 180sx which I brought down in 2000 under the old system before most people even knew what "strawberry face" was was (had to de-tune its suspension setup it cos it's arse end snapped out too frequently and easily for my liking), and watch D1 tour around Japan with interest. I also deal with amature class drifters in japan when buying cars and parts etc, and have a trade account with BN Sports(quite popular among the dirft circles I'm told ). Oh and a monthly subscription to Option2 and Young Cool mags

I don't claim to be a drifter, coz seriosly I wouldn't be able to do the stuff even the guys in the Amature Class japan did. I don't particularly enjoy gettin my R32 sideways, but I did like doing it in my 180. I conceed I did it on the streets, but this was in an empty industrial area not my local neighbourhood lined with houses.

What I don't like are wanks who think they're the nex Nob and end up in my driveway takin out my postbox and then asking me if I can get em spare parts from Japan. Also what I don't like are people in the media encouraging kids to have a go at this "new exciting sport" without warning em of the consequences, not only in health n safety but also the sort of damage a badly tuned car can sustain if they try to drift.

Keep in mind nissan and most other companies spent billions of dollars to develop stock cars that are meant to travel facing forwards. They don't come out of the factory as drift cars. Just cos someone puts on a set of rims, a larger turbo and sway bars does not make the car any more suited for lateral travel.

I'm bored at work, so yeah my replies are pretty long lol

[drifto]

FUNKYMONKEY, i appreciate that. You'll hate me even more when i tell you I have taken out a persons letter box. Back in 1996 before I even heard of the word drift. Driving a sweet Fiat 124CC. Delivering it to it's new owner, my last chance to drive it. Wet roads, only had to go 3 kms. Linked three corners together on a big uphill section, dug the nose in and launched over the gutter, two driveways and eventually thru a lettrebox and wedged onto their water meter. The owner came out of his front door as I desperately tried to reverse the car without sucess. I didn't need need any media hype to be a dickhead.

I don't want to take over this forums people but I have lots to say.

People have drawn comparisons between the D1 Pro drifters and the Aussies.

Just keep in mind that these D1 guys mainly come from a professional driving background in other motorsport catorgories and have superior car control skills compared to our top level guys who mostly started motorsport with drifting and only have a few years experience.

Imagine if our Top rally drivers like Cody Crocker, Ed Ordinsky, Simon Evans or some of our V8 supercar boys decided to give it a go. Maybe when there is money in it like Japan they will. I garuantee that then we will give these Japanese Pro's a run for there money.

It aint just that Drifting is a Japanese sport so their the best for ever.

Wasn't cricket an English sport? They suck!

[Atreyu]

What I hate about the this new drift craze is how the American's have jumped onto the whole drift scene and the way they try to make it their own, like in HPI there is a photo of a "drift" Pontiac GTO (CV8 Monaro). Rubbish.

The way HPI and Speed make it seem like this new thing when the Japanese have been doing it for years. Or the way HPI and Speed act like drift (apart from JGTC) is the only form of motorsport the Japanese do. They do a lot more than drift.

When you read HPI's drift day articles they always have photos of "drift" Gemmi's and Commodores. I buy HPI to see Japanese cars not Holdens.

Speed's drift article was pathetic, you need 30 grand to make a good drift car!! Bullsh*t.

Dont get me wrong I enjoy watching/reading about drift but why cant the magazines show some other facets of Japanese motorsport?? Is it because drift is the flavour of the month, commercialised and sanitised for the masses of southern californian kids to give them something to do in their riced up Civics and 240SX's??

The newstands are full of flashy American drift/import mags and are a prime example of American excess and tastelessnes in how to build the "perfect" drift or street car.

Americans try to hijack everything and claim it as their own and I am sick of having it shoved down my throat as the thing to do if you own an import.

Plus the Americans should learn how to make good dvd's on Japanese cars, they try to to make them real Americanish to appeal to all the "bros".

This American influence is permeating my local area after all the kids have seen the Fast NOS and the NOS Furious and try to emulate this glossy fake movie.

As can be seen by all the local bogans selling their CommonWhores and buying imports, mind you these guys were only months ago bagging out imports. Sheesh!!!

The drift craze is changing the import scene, and its not positive. Young twerps are buying imports and trying to be Keiichi Tsuchiya in their stock cars. If imports didnt already have a bad rep this could be the straw that breaks the camels back!

Rant off.

Have a nice day!

[rbs13]

you guys are right saying the americans copy the japs.. but in some hpi vids.. i see a lot of american trends with the cars. air bags, the vans with tv's.. even the ole kingswoods had this(crazy int with tvs).. does this mean they copied the u.s? maybe im wrong.. but hpi dvds only got released in the last 2 or so years so maybe they were doin this for years before and i didnt know about it. just wondering.. where did the trends start anyway?

[funkymonkey]

tru that... i've got an Option mag that has the jap cars all riced up with neons, scissor doors and more doof and decals than performance. The title was Fast and the Furious in japan.

Sorta ironic really.

If something is popular it'll always be imitated...

[ylwgtr2]

I think it's entirely ghey how heaps of Aussies knew about drift from the mid-90's (where I lived anyway) and yet it doesn't get popular in Oz until some freakin' yanks hype it up...

Hey we been drifting our crappy old HQ's for years

And funky...your just dirty coz your NA wont pull grandma off grandpa let alone a drift

[Rezz]

What I hate about the this new drift craze is how the American's have jumped onto the whole drift scene and the way they try to make it their own, like in HPI there is a photo of a "drift" Pontiac GTO (CV8 Monaro). Rubbish.

The way HPI and Speed make it seem like this new thing when the Japanese have been doing it for years. Or the way HPI and Speed act like drift (apart from JGTC) is the only form of motorsport the Japanese do. They do a lot more than drift.

When you read HPI's drift day articles they always have photos of "drift" Gemmi's and Commodores. I buy HPI to see Japanese cars not Holdens.

Speed's drift article was pathetic, you need 30 grand to make a good drift car!! Bullsh*t.

Dont get me wrong I enjoy watching/reading about drift but why cant the magazines show some other facets of Japanese motorsport?? Is it because drift is the flavour of the month, commercialised and sanitised for the masses of southern californian kids to give them something to do in their riced up Civics and 240SX's??

The newstands are full of flashy American drift/import mags and are a prime example of American excess and tastelessnes in how to build the "perfect" drift or street car.

Americans try to hijack everything and claim it as their own and I am sick of having it shoved down my throat as the thing to do if you own an import.

Plus the Americans should learn how to make good dvd's on Japanese cars, they try to to make them real Americanish to appeal to all the "bros".

This American influence is permeating my local area after all the kids have seen the Fast NOS and the NOS Furious and try to emulate this glossy fake movie.

As can be seen by all the local bogans selling their CommonWhores and buying imports, mind you these guys were only months ago bagging out imports. Sheesh!!!

The drift craze is changing the import scene, and its not positive. Young twerps are buying imports and trying to be Keiichi Tsuchiya in their stock cars. If imports didnt already have a bad rep this could be the straw that breaks the camels back!

Rant off.

Have a nice day!

I found a new friend...

[r33skylinegtst]

I think you're giving HPI a bit of a bad rap here. I haven't been reading their magazines for that long, but i have about 5-10 issues and i think their coverage of different types of motorsport is pretty fair and even handed. The one i just read (old issue, 37, 900HP GTR on cover) had an equal amount on dragging, drifting and real track racing.

However i think it's wrong to say that every article on drifting should have a big DO NOT TRY THIS ON PUBLIC ROADS sticker on it. It's not the information that is harmful, but how people interpret and use it. I read about drift and think 'obviously you don't do that on the main roads' whereas someone else might see it and go 'im gonna go try that!'

How many times have you read about a highly modified vehicle and then seen the words 'Speeding is illegal' next to it? not often. its the same with drift write ups, they're not going to put warning labels on everything, there has to be an element of common sense from the viewer/reader.

[fatz]

i go drifting its good fun

my car isnt set up for it its set up for the race track

shame australia has to follow the jap culture when it comes to drift i would like to see an australian style evolve

but then again until we are as good as them i supose they are the kings

we will get there someday

[Atreyu]

Cheers Rezz

Great minds think alike!

[GTRgeoff]

We have an aussie drift style.

It's called doughies in the Ute. I was [un]fortunate???? enough to grow up in the country and my first ride was an XM falcon ute with 3 "on the tree" and 7 1/2 turns lock to lock

[Roy]

shame australia has to follow the jap culture when it comes to drift i would like to see an australian style evolve

:werd:

Come on Fatz.... i recall you carrying on the proud tradition of circle work on the hill at EC.... with a BBQ in the back no less.... you cant get any more Australian then that.... perhaps trade the R31 for a 1-tonner

[Duncan]

muahaha that's the only time Pete's name has ever been called over a speaker at a race track

[Mase]

i'd love one of those tracks in brissie. Twice a week that's fantastic. I drive a rb20det powered onevia (silvia with a 180sx front). I went to the last drift event and it's nothing like you will find on the street. Short 90 degree bends are easy but when you have a full 180 degree wide turn, then have to link it up to another going the other way, you really start to struggle to get the car where you wanna go.

To have a track setup like full lock does would be an absolute treat. I know i for one would be out there regularly as i would much rather be doing it in a safe environment rather than an industrial estate 30mins away from my house. I see quite a few people talking about drifting but never see their cars at the events. I can only assume with all the talk that they are doing it on the street or in fact not at all. I think this conversation could have been cut short and basically stated that someone cleaned up this blokes mail box, he's pissed off and wants to vent his anger and so he vents it on a stereotype. No probs, i hope your front yard is fixed very quickly and give him a clip round the head for me too as its just plain stupid to drift anywhere near people and their homes etc.

[krawler]

Come on Fatz.... i recall you carrying on the proud tradition of circle work on the hill at EC.... with a BBQ in the back no less.... you cant get any more Australian then that.... perhaps trade the R31 for a 1-tonner

That is the coolest thing I've ever heard.

Donuts. In a ute. With a BBQ on the back.

I have a new idol and his name is Fatz (be better if it was Dazza?)

[fatz]

its alright it was a skyline.. cant remember if it was a gtr or a gts but the heli's were great until the track manament tryed to throw me out!!!

gold!!!!

im an ausy and if i see untouched grass i must rip it up!!!!!!!!!!

[Evo_Lee]

You want to know who set the whole drift scene in the States...???

A Japanese international student studying in New Jersey back in the 90's. He often talked to his mates back home to keep up with the local scene and read the magazine they send over...as it is the timing of the whole Japanese drift scene. The poor guy couldn't for the life of him find any SR20 Silvia etc...because no one in the States knew about them. So he was left trying to drift his Camaro I believe. Everyday and night he worked hard to master the art of drifting, he even joined a vocational automotive mechanical course so he could use the workshop to work on his car. Soon his classmates, a few Americans started to pickup and join him drifting each night. The Japanese and his American mates continued to drift for 5 years until he graduated uni and returned to Japan in the 98...I can't quite remember. At that time the whole American drifting scene started to pickup slowing in other US states.

So who is this Japanese guy, his name is Atsushi "Steve" Ikeda.

Justin will know who he is, though I'm sure others have claim their influence on the American following. But I believe Steve is, if not the first among the pioneers who influenced the whole up bringing of the American drift scene!

Due to family commitments, Steve ended up running his father's import business but still works the Nanko docks from time to time.

[someonestolecc]

I read this whole thread.

It's funny.

Funny because

a. there will always be dickheads (whether they take out peoples letterboxes or watch home and away and talk about it on the bus while my mp3 player is broken)

b. im just getting a cefiro and would like to set it up as a drift car

c. i never heard about drift taking off in america

What I don't get is - theres always some pop-assed clowns out there. The pop-system we live in will always propogate things that make money and are supposedly 'popular'. But it's a bit like pop music isn't it? Is it top 10 because people listen to it or is it top 10 because some fat **** is pushing it to the plebs?

In the end ima get a drift car, have some fun on the track, cruise around and listen to some doof doof and smile (i like my music loud too so shoot me).

Horses for courses and all that.. there will always be some kinda suckers .. each time you see these guys out just smile.. know that there is someone out there stupidier than you.

[aybee]

i guess saying that your getting a drift car is like saying that your buying a track car when you havent done a lap in your life...