I hate the drift hype!

[Rezz]

Hahahaha! Look at all you "Otaku" coming out of the woodwork!!!

About 4 years ago I got some Initial D goods... and my Japaneses girlfriend at the time (this is in Japan remember) LAUGHED at me and said that shit was for kids.

... never underestimate the power of a Japanese hottie laughing at you...

[darkstar]

Lol VERY Bad camera angle, i was about 1.5M away from the wall. I didnt hit it, however the car doesnt have ABS, so you gotta work the brakes. It was a wet night, but damn was it fun. As for the boat arguments, youll be supprised how well it hooks up when you can get the right line and amount of power to the ground. This furthers my argument that drift is not a car dependant sport as most people think but a driver dependant sport as they need to understand how it works, their limits and the cars limits.

There were a few casulties that night i think. I know a yellow silvia with stickers hit the wall on the main straight comming out of the last corner, on the rear passenger quarter panel, but it looks like an easy fix. Not sure if that 180sx hit the wall at the end of that video, certainly sounded like it. Your ment to start out with shitty cars, but given thats all i have access to at the moment, you use what you can. My drift project is an R32 with an RB25 so if you know anyone with a decent R32 shell or a crappy R32 GTS AUTO (or similar) for cheap, let me know im very keen and interested.

I did a couple of complete laps, but the last corner proved to be a little difficult. Got to come in from the outside, yank the hand brake and hopefully you got the right angle to persue a constant slide.

My favorite corners are hte 1st one that no one sees (Very good corner, high speed etc) and linking the S before the bridge. The last corner is a tough one to master - and the one most people focus on.

That post before wasnt directed to Funkymonkey, but rather the loudmouths that know it all and think 'drift is teh suck' because they are such an expert, they dont need to try it out to bag it. I loath both the wannabe kiddy drifters and the _experts_ that know just about everything with Zero experience. Just like those people that say that you should never brake when your in an out of control slide .....

I should be attending the drift day on the 16th this month, but since the soarer is my friends car we will be sharing this time. Two drivers, one car He doesnt know hardly anything about drift or the dyamics of cars and his driving skill isnt really that great, but he is keen to learn in a safe environment.

SS8_Gohan, your on the money with the infancy of the sport. Some companies are desperate to try out a new marketing gimick, and thus sponsoring a drift event or a few cars. Its a young sport, but there will be some people with the right money and contacts to be able to drift like a jap pro some day.

[heartbrkr]

All I can say is those kids who claim to be mad drifters are probably no different from other P plate drivers. They all think they can drive cars, and push them to its limits.

They are all obviously young and inexperienced. If they're not drifiting into letter boxes they are driving up your rear end or wrapping around a pole.

As for the quote that 90% of people watch racing to see the accidents, im in that catergory. I find watching people racing around in circles to be a bloody boring way to spend an afternoon. Only time i watch motorsport is for the rally (which lead to my interest in drift) or the first lap of F1 racing, where they stack it on first corner.

And yeah, it would be cool if somoene built a drift land for people to play with their cars. At the moment I know too many young males who like to be irresponsible. The fact they dont kill themselves straight way just leads them to repeat it.

Also for people who finger point at kiddies doing stupid stuff, i see far too many bad drivers on the roads (myself probably includuded, but i admit it) who arent paying attention or speeding etc. You have to anticipate the next person doing the wrong thing.

[funkymonkey]

maybe you can get your foot in the door early and be part of something pretty cool?

YES!! just don't become part of my house in the process.

[drift007]

one difference between the jap style drift and the oz style sh-t is bragging n not caring about telling blatent lies.

in oz ppl see the band wagon rolling by and everyone jumps on not caring about the history of it or what it actually is or how to do it properly.. its the new cool thing so yeah man i do that or ohh my brother is a gun at drifting, basically talking sh-t in the hope that someone will think that theyre cool. for the majority its not so much about showing what u can do, its more just claiming that u can do it... and in oz i think that goes for a lot of things like when i was in high school and used to skate, thats the thing to do in high school so everyone is like *yeah man i can ollie 2 meters high or i can do backflips* which is basically a load of sh-t, but the problem is people believe they can actually do this stuff and thats when letterboxes get totalled..

on the other hand....

going around in japan and watching drifting in the street is good, people test their limits and build their skills without bragging or bullsh-tting so much. i went drifting with a bunch of jap guys for the first time about a year ago.. it was an industrial area which to be honest i see as if anything a smart place to practice for the fact that there is no traffic or houses so its not disturbing anyone.. i went there in my r32 and just followed them to the place.. when i got there i didnt see a hundred ppl standing around making a sh-t load of noise and talking about how good they all were at drifting, i saw a bunch of cars parked around and ppl standing quietly and observing the drifting. i had never seen drifting in person before and was kinda amazed at it so sat in the passenger seat of this beaten up 180, the driver asked me if i was ready and off we went.. the whole time he was calm and didnt tell me about how good he was he showed me.. i then asked him to teach me so he sat in my car and taught me the basics.

basically i think japanese drift is something to be seen and taught and practiced and refined as a skill, thats why theyre good at it.

where as in all sports and things that australia imports there are ppl that are good at it cause they take the time to learn but 90percent of the time ppl are just talking sh-t so they can be involved in the craze.

[funkymonkey]

so drifting is like karate and we all need to have miyagi's n practice wax on wax off instead of being c0cky karate kids tryin to do crane stances?

[Pistolpete]

Hey so if some1 where to set up a track used exclusivly for drift???

there would be a fortune of money to be made???

[funkymonkey]

duh!... driftland... its a miniature couse with lots of twists and sprinklers. You go around the bends at low speeds (half of what you'd be doin on a track lets say) and you practice your skills at keeping the car off the grass patches in the course and on the asphalt roads. Its not huge or anything, but its like a slalom course with many types of twists n bends.

[meggala]

I actually think drift is like skating .

as in the scene .

meggala

the SA track @ pt gawler is liek that monkey .

but with calder having events twice a week thats great

[Driver]

I took this at the local shops yesterday on my mobile phone..

WATCH OUT!!..

[Driver]

[zymotic]

one difference between the jap style drift and the oz style sh-t is bragging n not caring about telling blatent lies.

in oz ppl see the band wagon rolling by and everyone jumps on not caring about the history of it or what it actually is or how to do it properly.. its the new cool thing so yeah man i do that or ohh my brother is a gun at drifting, basically talking sh-t in the hope that someone will think that theyre cool.  for the majority its not so much about showing what u can do, its more just claiming that u can do it... and in oz i think that goes for a lot of things like when i was in high school and used to skate, thats the thing to do in high school so everyone is like *yeah man i can ollie 2 meters high or i can do backflips* which is basically a load of sh-t, but the problem is people believe they can actually do this stuff and thats when letterboxes get totalled..  

on the other hand....

going around in japan and watching drifting in the street is good, people test their limits and build their skills without bragging or bullsh-tting so much. i went drifting with a bunch of jap guys for the first time about a year ago.. it was an industrial area which to be honest i see as if anything a smart place to practice for the fact that there is no traffic or houses so its not disturbing anyone..  i went there in my r32 and just followed them to the place.. when i got there i didnt see a hundred ppl standing around making a sh-t load of noise and talking about how good they all were at drifting, i saw a bunch of cars parked around and ppl standing quietly and observing the drifting. i had never seen drifting in person before and was kinda amazed at it so sat in the passenger seat of this beaten up 180, the driver asked me if i was ready and off we went.. the whole time he was calm and didnt tell me about how good he was he showed me.. i then asked him to teach me so he sat in my car and taught me the basics.

basically i think japanese drift is something to be seen and taught and practiced and refined as a skill, thats why theyre good at it.

where as in all sports and things that australia imports there are ppl that are good at it cause they take the time to learn but 90percent of the time ppl are just talking sh-t so they can be involved in the craze.

Have to agree. Only "seen" drift on a 2hr HPI vid neva done it or seen it in the flesh.

Came away really impressed by the way Japanese in general organised themselves in areas like u said. No "hype" or bullshit or arrogance just basically fun and improving skills.

Also came away thinking it looks dam hard to do. Been driving real wheel cars for 11 years and I wouldnt be even close to being able to do it (assuming a car setup for it).

Why cant we have that sort of culture in Australia - No hype lets just get together and improve our skills have fun and not hurt or annoy anybody.

Maybe we should learn from the Jap drift culture and try to setup a "real" drift culture in aus???

[Kutter]

culture in Australia

you have your answer right there......some things will never change... :argue:

[CyberTech]

Well, most of the posts I have read on this thread are the biggest load of shit I have seen.

Theres so many points I want to cover, its hard to know where to begin.

OK, so drift was originated in Japan, so they kick arse at it. V8 supercars was a predominately aussie thing years ago back in the production car days, and we kick arse at that, yet the rest of the world is catching up. Thats fine, everything has to start somewhere and the rest of the world can then challenge themselves to catch up.

Yes, there are plenty of wankers who jump on the bandwagon and claim to be drifters, but everyone has to start somewhere dont they? Of course, I'd personally prefer they started on the track but how many people get their first taste of a motorsport on the track? Like I'm sure most rally driving pro's started off in back paddocks or dirt roads out the back of bourke. Same as most people who got in 1/4 mile started out as traffic light hero's.

Why slag off clubs like Initial Drift or Full Lock (note, I am an official with QLD's premier drift club, DriftZone, so I might be biased) when all we are trying to do is nurture and promote a new (to Australia) form of motorsport that is cheap and relatively easy to get into? Oh, and we're trying our best to stop people smashing letterboxes and get them out to the track.

I am just sick of drift bashing for the sake of something to do. Get a life, or get out and try it.

[funkymonkey]

no one's slagging off the clubs (well I wasn't anywas). Good on em for giving kids an opportunity to practice their shit in a safe environment.

I'm not bagging out any clubs, or cars. I'm bagging out the hype that's being created about this new exciting sport. EVERY popular automotive mag I've read in the last week (Hot4's, HPI, Speed, Fast4's) has had drift articles ranging from how to mod your car for drift to how to drift like a pro. NOT ONE of em reccomends anywhere to go to practice it safely, OR mentioned the risks to your car if it was set up for drift, OR even the basic fact that if you drift on the street that you endanger yourself and other members of public. Most of the articles were far more concerned about how fun, cool, and easy it was. This isn't the image the so called Drift guru's of australia need to advocate to the impressionable people, who don't know the difference between a fishy and a drift.

No one's bashing drift, you'll find most of the posts on this thread are made by people who love watching pro drifting (hell I've been collecting option vids and Quick! mags from 1999 so ).

[Astroboy]

this thread is so long and good for that matter

lol i had something to say but now i forgot

oh well

each to their own opinion..

i wouldnt really say drifting is heaps more dangerous than street racing / speeding to other people...

people sensibly drifting wouldnt do it at such a high speed which is when you run into a pole

granted ive never tried drifting.. but i really want to, preferably in a car park or a safe environment.

An initial d rocks

Stage four eps 3/4 come out tommorw in japan ill be downloading those

[SLYSX]

alright i just read this thing took me fckin ages. Was a good read but, basically all Shan is saying that his sick of these little punk's (iam little but not a punk) basically in commondore's seeing D1 pro's who have heaps of years of practice and skill and thinking they can go out and learn all that stuff in 2hrs and also doing it on the street which can cause massive problems if they crash. As seen by the dickhead that hit his mail box, it could have been worse, he may have hit his car or even crashed into his house.

Iam still 16 but iam in the process of buying a ex drift car currently owned by my bro. I dont think iam a fully sick drifter cause ill own a ex drifter, thats why iam saving my money now so when i do get the car i can pay for a few of the full lock nights and get some practice on the track not only to learn the basics of drift but to help me be a better driver when i get my P's plate so i can handle situations when something goes wrong and be able to controll my car in a manner than will not only save me from injury but also the other road users.

Also there has been massive hype in the media lately about Drift mainly from HPI, Zoom etc iam bagging these mags i have subscribsion to them, but as was said earlier they show the D1 guys doing drift but they dont show the massive crash's and dont say that it's only best left to the pro's and should not be tried on the street.

[Zagan]

V8 Supercars is ONLY an Australian thing, but Brittian has TOCA, and USA has Nascar, all are the exact same thing no different only different names.

Anyway.

I think HPI have a good thing going they seem to be about drift club meets rather than how to do drift, Speed mag's Drift thing is pretty crap really, From what I've seen on the Drift Bilbe by the guy made started drifting in Japan and made the D1 comp in Japan and is number 1 when it comes to drift in anyone's eyes.

The Speed mag's Drift stuff goes completely in the wrong direction, to this video on how to drift, First things are meant to be suspsion, and brake pads, Speed says it's better tyres and some extra power? 2nd stage is then suspsion and maybe brakes depedning on the car on some cars it's the 3rd stage.

First stage is generally above $1,000 to $2,000 and 2nd stage is above $5,000 in general.

Most coments under pics is about what drift they are doing, One notable one is a car apprently a D1 car, and the "pro" is doing a hand brake drift or toe-in drift? what the Fark?

In the video the guy calls "hand brake drifts" as a wankers drift, and isn't a drift at all.

I don't know I think I will stop now, All I can say is that the Speed mag on drift is pretty crap at best, even stuff they have in there wouldn't be too great to use or learn from all you'd end up doing is plughing through something at best.

[funkymonkey]

apparently the latest issue of speed mag has a "drift survival guide". might be a good read.

[drifto]

I support any new and exciting motor sport opportunities. Drifting is one way that ordinary people can flog their road car in a safe and affordable way as long as it's done in a controlled environment like the one Initial Drift provide regulary.

Don't paint all drifters with the same brush because some loosers talk it up, can't do it and have no actual knowledge of what there talking about.

There are more dickheads out there that proclaim to do quick lap times on a circuit and stupid quater mile times on a day to day basis then are difters talking it up. How many people here no of a bloke who's got a mate with a torana that runs 9's and is street driven. (wankers)

I also put shame on those loosers who give the scene a bad name by causing carnage on the public roads and have no idea what their doning. But again there are more idiots in Commondores, geminis and cordias who think they're racing drivers and cause just as much carnage but we don't rite off every one who enjoys fast cars because some of us share the enjoyment and can actually drive.

FUNKYMONKEY it sounds like you don't enjoy drifting, that's OK. But don't be so narrow-minded.