bilaldabab Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 Hi Guys, I have a problem at idle with my GTR, cylinder number 5 is not running when idleing or not under load, When the engine get some load, it kicks back in and runs fine with plenty of power. I have replaced all 6 spark plugs, i have swapped over the coil packs with others and its not a coil pack issue. However when i Unplug the plug to the 5th coilpack, the revs don't change/drop. So I'm guessing it has something to do with the plug/wiring? Anyone got any advice before i start replacing everything? I recently replaced the whole engine and got it tuned. This started happening a day after i got it tuned. Took it back to the mechanics who installed the motor and they couldnt find the problem... Any help would be greatly appreciated! Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/427360-cylinder-not-running-on-idle-r32-gtr/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
MillsyR33 Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 VAC LEAK?? DO YOU HAVE OR HAVE ACCESS TO A SMOKE MACHINE?? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/427360-cylinder-not-running-on-idle-r32-gtr/#findComment-6899660 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bilaldabab Posted June 21, 2013 Author Share Posted June 21, 2013 No i dont unfortunately Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/427360-cylinder-not-running-on-idle-r32-gtr/#findComment-6899690 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicMikeZ32 Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 May or may not be wiring. If #5 isn't contributing at idle anyway, cutting fuel or spark to it won't change revs. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/427360-cylinder-not-running-on-idle-r32-gtr/#findComment-6899965 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTRNUR Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 Swap your number 1 and 5 coil packs and see if the problem moves. If it does you know where your problem is. Next, run the engine with the number 5 coil pack out of the head, and with a spare plug in it, sitting on top of the motor and watch for spark. If there is no spark, then its wiring or ignitor. If there is spark you need to eliminate fuel. Swap the number 5 and 1 injectors and see if the problem moves. If it does, then injector. If not, then potentially wiring or ECU issue. Borrow a stock /replacement ECU from someone and see how it goes. Have your tuned map uploaded if need be. 1 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/427360-cylinder-not-running-on-idle-r32-gtr/#findComment-6900701 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DVS JEZ Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 Sounds like it could be a blown intake gasket on that cylinder. Get some brake cleaner or wd40 etc and while the car is idling spray around cylinder 5 inlet, throttle gasket and injector oring etc. see if the idle changes Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/427360-cylinder-not-running-on-idle-r32-gtr/#findComment-6901555 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bilaldabab Posted June 24, 2013 Author Share Posted June 24, 2013 Swap your number 1 and 5 coil packs and see if the problem moves. If it does you know where your problem is. Next, run the engine with the number 5 coil pack out of the head, and with a spare plug in it, sitting on top of the motor and watch for spark. If there is no spark, then its wiring or ignitor. If there is spark you need to eliminate fuel. Swap the number 5 and 1 injectors and see if the problem moves. If it does, then injector. If not, then potentially wiring or ECU issue. Borrow a stock /replacement ECU from someone and see how it goes. Have your tuned map uploaded if need be. I have tried swapping my number 1 and number 5 coil packs and it made no change. I will try the rest when I get a chance this week. Thanks for the info, will let you know how I go!! Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/427360-cylinder-not-running-on-idle-r32-gtr/#findComment-6902528 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bilaldabab Posted June 24, 2013 Author Share Posted June 24, 2013 Sorry forgot to mention, also when its a cold start, the revs drop quite a bit and struggles to stay on (turns off most of the time), i need to keep my foot on the accelerator for about 15-20 seconds before it stays on.. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/427360-cylinder-not-running-on-idle-r32-gtr/#findComment-6902535 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bilaldabab Posted June 24, 2013 Author Share Posted June 24, 2013 So i tried spraying some throttle body cleaner on the injectors earlier, the revs did not change on injectors 1, 2 and 3. however the revs went higher by 100-200 rpm.. when sprayed on injectors 4, 5 and 6.... when i sprayed it on all 3 at once, the revs jumped upto 500 rpm. Does this mean the intake gasket is leaking towards the back? Could this be the issue or is this an entirely new issue? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/427360-cylinder-not-running-on-idle-r32-gtr/#findComment-6903521 Share on other sites More sharing options...
niZmO_Man Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 Gasket it sounds like. Checked the bolts/nuts? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/427360-cylinder-not-running-on-idle-r32-gtr/#findComment-6903674 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DVS JEZ Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 Yes sounds like the inlet gasket is blown. Its pretty common to happen as the gasket gets old. I normally replace the inlet and throttle gaskets with a set of metal nitto gaskets. Also check all the hoses under the plenum as they may need replacing while the plenum is out Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/427360-cylinder-not-running-on-idle-r32-gtr/#findComment-6903738 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bilaldabab Posted June 24, 2013 Author Share Posted June 24, 2013 Awesome thanks for the reply guys.. Is it hard to replace yourself? do you know of any DIY guides? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/427360-cylinder-not-running-on-idle-r32-gtr/#findComment-6903870 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SargeRX8 Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 Is that the gasket from runners to head? Shouldn't be hard. I think the rb25 plenum to runners is probably the ugliest job to do. I did it without a guide but there should be something readily available. Google change rb26 plenum gasket or intake gasket. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/427360-cylinder-not-running-on-idle-r32-gtr/#findComment-6904859 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DVS JEZ Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 Its a veryfun job to do on RB26's. willtake atkeast 3hours to get off, then cleaning of old gaskets and replacing hoses etc. then atleast 3hours to get back on. DO NOT CLEAN IN AND AROUND THE THROTTLE BODY BUTTERFLIES!!! Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/427360-cylinder-not-running-on-idle-r32-gtr/#findComment-6904927 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicMikeZ32 Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 (edited) LOL 3 hrs to get intake gasket off. And they say vg's are hard to work on... Could have my engine out in less time than that Edited June 25, 2013 by MagicMikeZ32 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/427360-cylinder-not-running-on-idle-r32-gtr/#findComment-6904988 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SargeRX8 Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 f**k sounds like a PITA of a job. I can imagine bruised knuckles would come into play here too. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/427360-cylinder-not-running-on-idle-r32-gtr/#findComment-6906082 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DVS JEZ Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Yes definately not fun. Its definately easier with the engine out haha Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/427360-cylinder-not-running-on-idle-r32-gtr/#findComment-6908760 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bilaldabab Posted July 7, 2013 Author Share Posted July 7, 2013 Ended up being the intake manifold gasket. got it fixed for $200 which i thought is worth it.. Thanks for the responses!!! Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/427360-cylinder-not-running-on-idle-r32-gtr/#findComment-6918436 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben C34 Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 200 is a bargain for that job! 6hrs labour... Was that mates rates? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/427360-cylinder-not-running-on-idle-r32-gtr/#findComment-6925442 Share on other sites More sharing options...
500hp Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 Injector mate Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/427360-cylinder-not-running-on-idle-r32-gtr/#findComment-6930798 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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