Rb25De To Rb25De Neo Worth It?

[S1R33rb25de]

Hey everyone, I am on my p's and my 93' r33 is my daily, with 150k and climbing on the clock with leaks and ticking from the motor I have been thinking about sourcing my self a rb25de neo with lesser k's so I am seeking advice from you guys, worth doing? Straight fit? Will it allow me to use same diff gear box, and if that is all good would it be better to grab a after market ecu or stock r34 ecu? Note I know my car is not worth spending big bucks on and I do have the plans to upgrade to a turbo model, any advice or tips I'd appreciated

Cheers

[mad082]

Not worth it.

[StevenCJR31]

as said above, not worth it

your computer wont run the neo motor

so factor in a rewire of cars wiring to run the 34 ecu

Edited July 7, 2013 by StevenCJR31

[S3RK]

If you really want to swap motors, drop in a DET.
You can get away with turbo's so easily these days...

[S1R33rb25de]

Thanks for the advice guys, thought about dropping in a DET but how will my brakes handle it? In a sense to do it proper and safe my brakes will have to be upgraded right? And running gear? Even tho I will have to leave the motor stock to not to attract to much attention right?

[niZmO_Man]

You're on your P's, so forget about turbos.

Where is it leaking oil from? Ticking sounds like oil is too thin. Not sure if it got worse or you bought it like that. Try thicker oil.

Wait until you're off your P's then buy a turbo one (or sell your car and get an R34).

[Bennis]

If you really want to swap motors, drop in a DET.

You can get away with turbo's so easily these days...

You're an idiot.

Who cares if the cops dont find out you have a turbocharged car.

But if you crash, your insurance is void. Have fun paying the bills lol

[Bennis]

OP, leave car completely standard in regards to engine, intake, exhaust. It is ALL a waste of money on an n/a. Drive it and service it. The leaks are fixable, the ticking may or may not be but who cares. Just drive it till it breaks if it ever does.

[S1R33rb25de]

I wouldn't drop in a DET due to the cost factor and all the bullshit that goes along with it (mod plates ect) and after reading on here and how so many people say not worth spending money as you can't get any real gains, plus I'm not made of money lol, my only goal for this car is to keep it clean and respectable (best I can for a non turbo) and learn how it handles and get a better under standing of the RB'S and if I learn how to use what power my car does have more efficient then I would be pleased

[niZmO_Man]

Yeah just keep it serviced regularly, etc. Take it to track days, skid pans etc to learn how your car handles in different situations. Build your driving skills up. Once you get a turbo (after a few years of experience), you will appreciate it more and more importantly, know how to control it a lot better.

[Reedo]

i recently put a neo in my 33 after finding out the crank key way was thrashed out. the big costs are as follows: engine, wiring, ecu, clutch.
all up i spend about 3.5k doing my conversion and its still not running right. before you go throwing anything in your engine bay do the water pump and timing belt, so much easier when its out. the engine goes straigt in using the r33 engine mounts, n/a 33s run the rb20 box which bolts straight up and you just use the 33 rb20 clutch kit (excedy). next you need to get it all wired up. buy a 34 engine harness and keep your 33 one. take them to a decent sparky or get them to come to yours like i did and they can wire it all up in a day. thread loom into engine bay and then connect everything up. hook up the ecu and then your down to the smaller problems.

problems i ran into:

need to get a custom accelerator cable made up as the 33 one is too short and i belive the 34 one is too long. mine cost 130 bucks.
next problem was for some reason my neo runs the 33 CAS. you need to find out which one you need.

the vaccuum hose that runs between the plennum and the brake booster needs a bit of man handling due to the 33 one not being in the same place as the 34 but with a bit of a shove itll work.
finally dont let any of your mates that have no clue about engines help out. left one mate the job of doing the radiator hoses. didnt bother checking them cause i thought he could do a good job. 10 mins on the first drive the bottom hose came off.

in conclusion its a shit tonne of work but it is nice rocking up to car meets and when people say 'ahh dw bout it its just a boring old rb25de' you can always pop the hood and show them what you did in your driveway with limited help and knowledge.

[WMDC35]

no neos run the alloy type 33 CAS,(some late 33s had the plastic cap neo type) i have done a neo de swap because it was lying around using early ecu, ran perfectly, not saying it's ideal but does work, and not worth it unless your car is dead & you've got a free neo

Edited July 12, 2013 by WMDC35

[S1R33rb25de]

Cheers for that info guys very handy, car is still leaking yet to source where from, and still ticking and missing every now an then, going into mechanics on Monday so ill see what they say

[S1R33rb25de]

For those who are slightly interested haha, mechanic couldn't find anything too major wrong other then coil packs are there way out and my power steering pump has a "slight" leak and tie end bushes need replacing and front rotas need replacing ( as he's not willing to machine them) overall I'm fairly pleased with it and gives me a good start point to start fixing things

[StevenCJR31]

nothing much to worry about then,the few things wrong with it are cheap to fix