33turbo Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 Ok first post so i'll make this quick,When welding or grub screwing the vct oil feed shut on the R33 head and making up an external oil feed for the vct, can i use an rb30 headgasket and put it together using the rb25 head bolts?Then put it all back together then good to go?My reason for asking is because in this guide he shows in the second or third photo a bit that has been welded on for seating the rb25 head gasket? http://homepages.vodafone.co.nz/~lakewood/Skyline/R33_head.htmIs there any benefits using the 25 gasket? Also with running the motor in, is it best to drive it softly for 1000ks (or whatever is recommended) with mineral oil then dyno tune it or tow it and chuck it straight on the dyno?If driving it for 1000ks i will be using all the stock bolt ons rather than the upgraded items Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/428767-r33-head-modification-and-running-in-question/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiwiRS4T Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 I am using an RB25 head gasket. Run it in on the dyno - no softly softly stuff (assuming tuner will not thrash it to death). Then dump oil and refill and drive normally watching oil pressure and temps and checking for leaks. Ok first post so i'll make this quick,When welding or grub screwing the vct oil feed shut on the R33 head and making up an external oil feed for the vct, can i use an rb30 headgasket and put it together using the rb25 head bolts?Then put it all back together then good to go?My reason for asking is because in this guide he shows in the second or third photo a bit that has been welded on for seating the rb25 head gasket? http://homepages.vodafone.co.nz/~lakewood/Skyline/R33_head.htmIs there any benefits using the 25 gasket? Also with running the motor in, is it best to drive it softly for 1000ks (or whatever is recommended) with mineral oil then dyno tune it or tow it and chuck it straight on the dyno?If driving it for 1000ks i will be using all the stock bolt ons rather than the upgraded items Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/428767-r33-head-modification-and-running-in-question/#findComment-6930908 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben C34 Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 I am using an RB25 head gasket. Run it in on the dyno - no softly softly stuff (assuming tuner will not thrash it to death). Then dump oil and refill and drive normally watching oil pressure and temps and checking for leaks. did you weld the block for more sealing surface in that coolant gallery or is it not as bad as it looks in that photo? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/428767-r33-head-modification-and-running-in-question/#findComment-6931277 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shoota_77 Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 In regards to the break in procedure I've always believed in this guys procedure- http://www.mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm Makes a lot of sense to do it that way. Seems a little heavy handed but he's done a lot of research to show that it works. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/428767-r33-head-modification-and-running-in-question/#findComment-6931282 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYTSKY Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Can use Rb30 gasket if blocking off VCT. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/428767-r33-head-modification-and-running-in-question/#findComment-6931287 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben C34 Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 You have to block vct with both gaskets. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/428767-r33-head-modification-and-running-in-question/#findComment-6931369 Share on other sites More sharing options...
juicy3 Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 http://www.mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm Anyone ever done this ^Im going to be running one in soon the old 1000ks softly way but that kinda looks to me like i better have a spare 30 block just incase haha Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/428767-r33-head-modification-and-running-in-question/#findComment-6932835 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piggaz Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 ^^ Yep. Start, check for leaks. None? Sweet! Get on the dyno and load it up. Gave it back to me and went belting through the hills. 3rd and 4th gear pulls up hills to 6500 rpm. 3 days later at the last years nationals, Wakefield park and airport runs. Basically gave it as much load as I could give it from as early as possible. Last engine was run in very similar. Never breathed a drop of oil. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/428767-r33-head-modification-and-running-in-question/#findComment-6933406 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiwiRS4T Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 Running in as per Piggaz's post above has been the correct procedure for at least the last 30 - 40 years (on dyno or road) - anyone telling you to take it "softly" is way out of touch. http://www.mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm Anyone ever done this ^Im going to be running one in soon the old 1000ks softly way but that kinda looks to me like i better have a spare 30 block just incase haha Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/428767-r33-head-modification-and-running-in-question/#findComment-6933810 Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenCJR31 Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 Ok first post so i'll make this quick, When welding or grub screwing the vct oil feed shut on the R33 head and making up an external oil feed for the vct, can i use an rb30 headgasket and put it together using the rb25 head bolts? Then put it all back together then good to go? My reason for asking is because in this guide he shows in the second or third photo a bit that has been welded on for seating the rb25 head gasket? http://homepages.vodafone.co.nz/~lakewood/Skyline/R33_head.htm Is there any benefits using the 25 gasket? Also with running the motor in, is it best to drive it softly for 1000ks (or whatever is recommended) with mineral oil then dyno tune it or tow it and chuck it straight on the dyno? If driving it for 1000ks i will be using all the stock bolt ons rather than the upgraded items Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/428767-r33-head-modification-and-running-in-question/#findComment-6934611 Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenCJR31 Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 Ok first post so i'll make this quick, When welding or grub screwing the vct oil feed shut on the R33 head and making up an external oil feed for the vct, can i use an rb30 headgasket and put it together using the rb25 head bolts? Then put it all back together then good to go? My reason for asking is because in this guide he shows in the second or third photo a bit that has been welded on for seating the rb25 head gasket? http://homepages.vodafone.co.nz/~lakewood/Skyline/R33_head.htm Is there any benefits using the 25 gasket? Also with running the motor in, is it best to drive it softly for 1000ks (or whatever is recommended) with mineral oil then dyno tune it or tow it and chuck it straight on the dyno? If driving it for 1000ks i will be using all the stock bolt ons rather than the upgraded items go for an internal vct feed and use NEW rb25head bolts Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/428767-r33-head-modification-and-running-in-question/#findComment-6934612 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicr4wks Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 go for an internal vct feed and use NEW rb25head bolts I've heard mixed things about this method, mainly that it has the possibility of starving other components when the pressure is required for VCT? It sure would be a tidier method, anyone with experience on this have some input? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/428767-r33-head-modification-and-running-in-question/#findComment-6941061 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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