M35 "problem"

[Commsman]

Reply from Ebay seller:

10+ for $75 each

20+ for $70 each

30+ for $65 each

That price includes postage to one address only. Someone would have to repackage / post to everyone else, so maybe an extra $3-$4e.

Scotty, see how you go with your hunt in China. I'll make some enquiries as well. I think a better price is out there.

Edited July 18, 2013 by Commsman

[scotty nm35]

A better price is definitely out there, just not sure on minimum quantities and quality yet.

[ChrisB]

A better price is definitely out there, just not sure on minimum quantities and quality yet.

Correct Scotty.

We can do better than that.

Lets test them first and make sure they last longer than 3 months. Delivery is expected Monday.

[ECR33_RB25DET]

Either test the Ebay ones or we negotiate with a Nissan wrecker to buy a bulk load cheap...this one in Brooklyn is massive...

http://www.niss4x4.com.au/

[Commsman]

IMO, the best way is to bulk buy from China as prices are so cheap. You don't worry about warranty, just carry a spare. Some I saw "guarantee" theirs for 12 months or 50,000km, lol. But why would you send it back when they cost so little? I'd look at it as disposable like an air filter, lol.

Anyway Scotty & ChrisB look like that's what they're doing, so hold tight till they report back success

[donutdavid]

At last my Stag is back on the road and I kid you not it feels a lot more responsive and grunty then before???.

What I ended up doing is installed a very good second hand one that came of 2003 rs250 from wrecker.

I placed and then cancelled at last minute order from Nissan @$318 for the sensor where second hand set me back $150 after negotiating.

So now who knows how long will this last? and yes from me for couple of sensors for glovebox stock once we decide with which one to get.

Thanks again everyne for input.

Dave

PS. The reason I was going to get one from nissan and not ebay is delivery next day ex Melbourne,

[scotty nm35]

I have spoken to a mate today after telling him to return the faulty Nissan AFM's. He returned two with receipts and was told unless he told them the ODO k's at purchase, they weren't covered with their 12 month 20,000 k warranty. It would need to be installed by a licenced mechanic too, even better the Nissan service centre, that way they can sting you $200 more to clear the code. Great service by Nissan...

Anyway, nothing will make me happier than to put a stop to their thieving ways by undercutting their best seller.

[donutdavid]

Has anyone installed experimented with fitting new ecu to eleminate the need for air flow sensor or that is not possible with m35 like with skylines?

[Daleo]

Has anyone installed experimented with fitting new ecu to eleminate the need for air flow sensor or that is not possible with m35 like with skylines?

How deep are your pockets?

Anything is possible if you're prepared to spend enough cash.

[MrStabby]

I have spoken to a mate today after telling him to return the faulty Nissan AFM's. He returned two with receipts and was told unless he told them the ODO k's at purchase, they weren't covered with their 12 month 20,000 k warranty. It would need to be installed by a licenced mechanic too, even better the Nissan service centre, that way they can sting you $200 more to clear the code. Great service by Nissan...

Your mate is ignorant of his rights if he believes what Nissan is telling him.

[scotty nm35]

Your mate is ignorant of his rights if he believes what Nissan is telling him.

Considering he is the Nissan service mech at the dealership in question I assume he doesn't want to make too many waves. He is definitely ready to sell the car though, as the new afm he bought today lasted 20 minutes.

Has anyone installed experimented with fitting new ecu to eleminate the need for air flow sensor or that is not possible with m35 like with skylines?

I am running with a blown AFM at the moment, as I lent it to another owner while he got a replacement. My Fcon Vpro runs off the HKS map sensor so the afm isn't required, but the engine light pops up still. I want a reliable solution for myself too.

[PN-Mad]

Scotty, why don't you get a good electrician to tear one down and see what exactly fails. My old uprev one was a remanufactured OEM. I don't know if the s1 are as easy to get apart, but might be worth a go to see if you can learn to repair.

[Commsman]

Full of surface mount components.

[ChrisB]

Where did the AFM that lasted 20 mins come from?

Was this an ebay item, S/H from wrecker or new from Nissan?

[PN-Mad]

Full of surface mount components.

afm.JPG

Sorry, I don't understand the relevance of this. I have a very basic understanding of circuit boards and electrics!

Care to explain?

[Daleo]

Sorry, I don't understand the relevance of this. I have a very basic understanding of circuit boards and electrics!

Care to explain?

The board is tiny; like 10mm square.

Any one fixing that is gonna have exceptionally good skills and bloody good eyes.

[Commsman]

^ yeah, what Dale said.

That pic was taken from a manufacturers' website & isn't neccesarily what ours looks like; it's a representation only. In any case, I don't think many people have the tools & skills to fault find & repair SMD circuits. 'Through-hole' circuit boards & components are the sort most lay-people work on (think Jaycar kits), but those would make our AFM 5 times as big.

[scotty nm35]

Sorry, I don't understand the relevance of this. I have a very basic understanding of everything!

Care to explain?

I did electronic repair to component level for years, they are not repairable.

The AFM that lasted 20 minutes was from Nissan, 21A P/N. He has since modified an N15 Pulsar 4 pin AFM (no intake temp sensor) and soldered the thermistor directly to the loom, then stuck it into the airbox. Works great and should last.

[Kazal]

... As I sit here, waiting for my 'new' 2002 M35 to roll of a boat any day now.. I am wondering what have I got myself into....

[Commsman]

You'll be right mate. Late comers get all the benefit of others' experience.

Even though some have had problems with (multiple) AFMs, many have had none. Plus any day now I'm sure there will be a cheap solution if you do have issues.

Post up some pics when you get your new car

Edited July 20, 2013 by Commsman