The word on cats you morons (NSW relevance)

[Abo Bob]

Ok, if your car is registered then it has to have a cat. You can't take it out to race or light your cigarettes or anything.

I've spoken with the guy who actually drafts the legislation for the Parliamentry Counsels office when they are too lazy to do it themselves (well, budget cutbacks you know...).

$300 to $22,000 fines set by the court. You can get $300 on the spot from the coppers but if you get a summons then the court will probably **** you up. I asked if the $22,000 was more likely to be aimed at businesses that 'flout the law' but was told that no, they can cop $44,000.

And off topic here (but it's my thread so I can cry if...);

Since Bob Carr has been in power the Parliamentry Counsels Office; ie, the people who draft the legislation, has had a $5m per annum cut in it's funding while the Premiers Department; read, Spin Doctors; has had it's funding quadrupled.

So basically what we are getting is crapper and crapper legislation supported by ever growing spin.

Yay!

[T0nyGTSt]

Can they do anything about farked cats?

Because mine is assuredly farked like the moggy that's lying splattered outside my house.

T.

[Jimbo2000]

so bobbles

a coppa could give a 300 fine if he figured out somehow that you had no cat.

if he sends you to a emissions test you could be fined not only 10,000 which was the general belief but 22000?????

my goodness gracious, glad i got a cat when i realised mine was gutted

[T0nyGTSt]

a coppa could give a 300 fine if he figured out somehow that you had no cat.

I would hopefully imagine that you get fined and you get a few days to front the EPA.

Quite magically you turn up with a new cat to claim your $300 back

But I'd imagine they aren't that stupid and they make you drive to the EPA station right then...

T.

[robbo31]

yeah, but the thing is catalytic converters only last for about 8 years anyway, after which the effectivness of the active metals in them (platinum etc..) is markedly reduced and they don't work.

Crazy EPA people :wassup:

[hawks]

dont stand behind my car then. but then again, i dont need them

[B-Man]

The thing that gets me is that my Skyline needed to get a new cat fitted as part of it's compliance (ie compliance plates)

My Gloria - (15yr old) - Didn't need to get a new cat - even though it was older than the Skyline.

I think this illustrates Abo Bob's point precisely.

Go figure.

[JimX]

My motorcycle was made in 2000 and doesn't legally need a cat, and it is far less fuel efficient than the Skyline. It has a 1 litre engine, which is less than half the capacity of the Skyline's engine even before you add the turbo, and weighs around 1/7th as much as the Skyline. But even with all these size advantages, it uses almost spot on half as much fuel as the Skyline. You'd think it'd use around 1/4 the fuel. I don't know why a cat isn't required, because I feel sorry for anyone caught behind me at the traffic lights, inhaling the toxic exhaust fumes from the non-catalysed exhaust.

Laws are funny things.

[Abo Bob]

Too true.

[red900ss]

SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH Jim!!!!!!!!!!!!! someone in power may read this and realise "Oh crap there's a big hole in the legislation....cats for all bikes and boats NOW!" :uhh:

The Duc' also hits well above it's weight in fuel usage.

[Duncan]

and noise

[Ronin 09]

JimX, trust me they are working on cats for bikes.

A few years ago they 'trialed', but people with bikes cracked it - imagine the additional bulk of a cat on a bike... What they are waiting for is until cats are small enough to package in-line with the rear can of bikes or something alike...

sorry

[JimX]

JimX, trust me they are working on cats for bikes.

A few years ago they 'trialed', but people with bikes cracked it - imagine the additional bulk of a cat on a bike... What they are waiting for is until cats are small enough to package in-line with the rear can of bikes or something alike...

sorry

They already have cats on some bikes, mostly on late model Hondas. eg, Gold Wing, VFR800. But no vehicle that didn't come with a cat from the factory has thus far been required to have one retrofitted at a later date in Australia. New motorcycles in California are required to have cats fitted, and I'm sure eventually most of the rest of the world will follow suit including Australia. But for now it's not required in Australia, although I'm sure it is illegal to remove a cat from a bike which had one fitted at the factory.

The cats are very small and fit easily on a bike designed for it. But there's no way it would fit on mine. One of my pipes underneath where a cat would go is actually slightly flattened to fit. So the cat would have to be smaller than a flattened section of pipe on my bike. No chance anyone's going to make me put one on my bike, because it will not physically fit.

[bangahh]

SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH Jim!!!!!!!!!!!!! someone in power may read this and realise "Oh crap there's a big hole in the legislation....cats for all bikes and boats NOW!" :uhh:

The Duc' also hits well above it's weight in fuel usage.

I want to see CATS in Lawnmowers.

Here kitty kitty....meeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaoooooooooooooooooowwwwwwwwwwww.

bahahahahahahaaaaaa............... dont think the pollies are going to piss off all their voters now are they ?