M35 Banjo Bolt Drilling For Highflows

[scotty nm35]

I have always suggested to drill out the banjo bolt in the block (that supplies the turbo with oil) to around 2.5mm once a highflow bush core turbo is installed. After the recent failure of a highflow due to oil starvation I did a flow test of the line at idle and found there wasn't enough oil flowing, even with the line/banjo disconnected. Suspecting a blockage in the block feed I checked another car and surprisingly found the same thing, the oil was only dribbling out. I checked on my spare engine and found in the sump another oil feed line, with two more 1mm restricted banjo bolts that feed oil to the external line. So it seems there are actually 3 x 1mm restricted banjo bolts as stock. Nissan definitely thought the oil pressure was way too high for the standard ball bearing turbo...

It also explains why the oil feed is so commonly blocked. On this car I have opened up the two sump banjo bolts to 2.5mm and approximately tripled the oil flow to the turbo, hopefully enough to supply the bush core with surplus. It was a bit wet today to take pictures but I will organise some next week, it's not a difficult job other than taking the pan off.

I am not suggesting everyone should rush out and drill these two extra banjo bolts out as I have, but Hypergear and I have agreed I should do this mod to all further turbo installs, to make sure not only the holes aren't blocked, and won't easily block again, but that there is sufficient oil flow to his turbos. I am also thinking about running braided lines and a filter inside the sump to replace the hard line, as it's easier to get to than the block mounted line, and would make sure no further blockages would occur. Not sure if it's warranted yet.

[joshm35]

What do you suggest for stock turbos

[scotty nm35]

Leave it stock sized for the stock turbo, but make sure they are clear perhaps, next time you dump the oil.

Nissan wouldn't have put them there for no reason...

[Daleo]

Scotty's Customs; at the forefront of Stagea Mods!

[scotty nm35]

No-one else can be stuffed doing the R+D. lol.

[Daleo]

I think I'd rather have you on the case mate.

[Footo]

It's possible though when highflowing the banjo is already upgraded on the turbo. So replace the block banjo with the turbo one like I did?

Next oil change I will open up the two sumps banjos

[scotty nm35]

Yep, Stao ships his turbo's out with a new banjo to suit the smaller thread in the CHRA. No idea why he doesn't simply tap it out, surely it's easier than cutting a banjo on the lathe... Anyway, what you did is fine Chris, just pointless if there are still two more restrictors. I would definitely suggest drilling them next service.

[Footo]

Thanks is for putting the effort into doing the research it will save the highflow guys future problems for sure !!

[scotty nm35]

No worries guys.

I have had a few questions on this, one being can there be drawbacks. I personally don't think it will affect oil pressure to the engine, as only a small amount still flows to the turbos, even after drilling the banjos. I would definitely like to check the difference in oil pressure between my engine and this one but I have no gauge at the moment, and it is quite hard to read pressure without the adapter plate under the oil filter. I will check it at a later date.

Another question was, why aren't other turbo's blowing up. I believe there is JUST enough oil flow to keep the turbo's spinning, any partial blockage may be enough to do damage imo. Drilling the banjos out will give the turbo some leeway with oil requirements.

Here is the oil line we are discussing...

[Jetwreck]

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or everyone just goes BB in future.

[scotty nm35]

Big brudda?

[Jetwreck]

DON'TTT....

Ball Baring nummers!!

edit..from Scott...boll buring

Edited August 2, 2013 by Jetwreck

[gleeson]

No worries guys.

I have had a few questions on this, one being can there be drawbacks. I personally don't think it will affect oil pressure to the engine, as only a small amount still flows to the turbos, even after drilling the banjos. I would definitely like to check the difference in oil pressure between my engine and this one but I have no gauge at the moment, and it is quite hard to read pressure without the adapter plate under the oil filter. I will check it at a later date.

Another question was, why aren't other turbo's blowing up. I believe there is JUST enough oil flow to keep the turbo's spinning, any partial blockage may be enough to do damage imo. Drilling the banjos out will give the turbo some leeway with oil requirements.

Here is the oil line we are discussing...

Edited August 2, 2013 by gleeson

[gleeson]

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or everyone just goes BB in future.

ball bag?

[Jetwreck]

Big bananas!

[iamhe77]

Big bananas!

Weird, the first thing I thought of was Big Boobs, but if big bananas float your boat...

[joshm35]

Bolting a qantas wing on the back of your car can do that.