Guess my rwkw from these mods!

[jamesh3]

im surprised no one wrote this guy off, very impressive

What ya mean? I'm sure its some sarcastic comment i'd laugh at. Even at myself.

:run:

[Roy]

Perhaps with the extra boost and extra acceleration, the thing is revving out quicker and even higher. (assuming you are not bouncing the thing off rev limiters as a shift point.

So if you are normally changing gear at 6,500rpm in 2nd because acceleration is starting to trail off, but with more boost there may be a little more top end, so you rev the car that couple of hundred rpm harder.

Go for a drive down the street at 7psi and bounce the thing of the rev limiter, then do it again at 10psi...you will see that your road speeds are the same.

I am a mechanical engineer...

You aint no mechanical engineer, you explained that concept far too well to be a mech engineer... there werent even any typos or speling mistaks

[jamesh3]

Perhaps with the extra boost and extra acceleration, the thing is revving out quicker and even higher. (assuming you are not bouncing the thing off rev limiters as a shift point.

So if you are normally changing gear at 6,500rpm in 2nd because acceleration is starting to trail off, but with more boost there may be a little more top end, so you rev the car that couple of hundred rpm harder.

Go for a drive down the street at 7psi and bounce the thing of the rev limiter, then do it again at 10psi...you will see that your road speeds are the same.  

I like your point, but were not talking about a 5 or 10 km/h difference, we're talking about a full 20km/h difference. I never hit rev limiter, only ever hit it once, i always shift at 6500... My Apexi computer even tells me that. So its not just a guess of when i actually shifted.

Oww and i dont shift at 6500 because im loosing power, im shifting at it because its peak power right there and its the best time to shift.

"more boost there may be a little more top end, so you rev the car that couple of hundred rpm harder." Yeh good point, but a couple extra hundred RPM wouldnt explain for a whole 20km/h. Dont worry, I'll be testing tomorrow.

:run:

[Roy]

Your not getting your road speed thing from an Apexi AVCR or SAFC are you? That could explain the difference in speed there. Go off the factory speedo...

[jamesh3]

Your not getting your road speed thing from an Apexi AVCR or SAFC are you? That could explain the difference in speed there. Go off the factory speedo...

I am, my SAFC just tells me my Revs.

[Ronin 09]

My Mistake... Sorry jamesh,  

Ronin is SydneyKids long lost son

 

/me awaits Sydneykid to tell me I'm wrong.../

[Guest INASNT]

You aint no mechanical engineer, you explained that concept far too well to be a mech engineer... there werent even any typos or speling mistaks

hahaha so true, i am sure marcus put all that through a spell and grammer checker before he inserted in

[Sydneykid]

/me awaits Sydneykid to tell me I'm wrong.../

Your WRONG Ronin, I have a son but he is neither long nor lost. :slap:

As for Jamesh3, I have seriously pissed my pants several times reading the drivel :bonk:

In a manual car there is a SOLID connection between the wheels and the engine. In the same gear it is impossible for the rpm of the wheels to change if the rpm of the engine doesn't. :flamer:

As for single, double or triple clutching on the up change being faster, I can not believe anyone is that stupid :headspin:

How long does it take you to;

lift off the throttle

push the clutch in

move the gear lever to neutral

push the clutch in

squeeze the throttle

lift off the throttle

then move the gear lever into the next gear

lift off the clutch

squeeze the throttle

If you are really good it's 0.15 of a second.

Compare that to;

lift throttle

move gear lever into the next gear

squeeze throttle

If you are average that's 0.02 of a second

In a 1/4 you make 3 gear changes, 1 to 2, 2 to 3 and 3 to 4. Using the double clutch method you spend 3 X 0.15 = 0.45 not accelerating. Compared to 0.02 X 3 = 0.06 not accelerating.

You just lost the drag by 0.4 second. :kick:

I can't believe I managed to type this without laughing my self sick. :throwup:

[Parag0n]

Sydney kid has won this thread

[Ronin 09]

Your WRONG Ronin, I have a son but he is neither long nor lost.  :slap:  

/me runs into corner and cries... shut down by Sydneykid /

[jamesh3]

How long does it take you to;

lift off the throttle

push the clutch in

move the gear lever to neutral

push the  clutch in

squeeze the throttle

lift off the throttle

then move the gear lever into the next gear

lift off the clutch

squeeze the throttle

Wrong. Thats like truck double clutching. Not Racing double clutching... Doop!

Firstly Read post #27 & #24.

Lol mate, thats the other form of Double Clutching most people think when they hear that term. You are ignorant like many others,i dont blame you but perhaps you should read posts 27 & 24 about Double Clutching which you've probably never even heard of before then read another about "Popping" & "Fanning" which is the same thing... Once you have finally read the post and then know why double clutching is faster for turbo cars, you may be the once laughing at your self.

"I can not believe anyone is that stupid"

Ignorance is Bliss aint it! :flamed: hahah

[aybee]

You got that one pretty much spot on, well explained...  It's also called double clutching by people, it seems the term 'double clutching' has 2 different explanations and most people think the other.  From now on so theres no confusion i hope I'll be calling it "fanning" or "stepping" or "popping" hehehe.

NO, double clutching does not have two explanations!

NO, fanning, stepping or popping is not the same as double clutching!

Whoever these "most people" are, they are wrong and have misinformed you! this is cause most people dont know sh1it about cars.

How many reaplies does it take on here for you to believe what double clutching actually is??? just accept it: you are wrong, and so are most people

**this is a perfect example of someone thinking they know all about driving a car fast just cause they drive a fast car**

[aybee]

OH MY GOD!!!!

I DONT THINK THAT ANYONE HAS EVER TOLD SYDNEYKID THAT HE IS WRONG!!!

YOU KNOW WHY?

CAUSE HE IS NEVER WRONG!!! NO EXCEPTIONS!

dont you think its strange that you are the only odd one out here?

[SS8_Gohan]

in simple terms, i've always thought of double clutching as a longer period between each gear change, hence, less accelerating. Why spend more time changing gears? doesn't make sense at all :confused: I think SydneyKid explained it very well.

When i see someone taking the Mines R34 GTR out for a spin, or any track battle of ANY turbo car, and see someone "double clutching" (as they have a cam view of the pedals) i will come back to this thread and say i'm wrong. But as long as the crazy nutcases in Japan are flying around in beasts of cars like the Mines R34 GTR, and shifting "normally" i will continue to think of "double cluthing" as something that belongs, and should stay in, the Fast and the Fubarb.

cheers

[SS8_Gohan]

jamesh3: do you live your life a quarter mile at a time? or when you race, you take the win and the respect, cos that's more important to you?

couldn't help myself!

[Sydneykid]

OH MY GOD!!!!

I DONT THINK THAT ANYONE HAS EVER TOLD SYDNEYKID THAT HE IS WRONG!!!

YOU KNOW WHY?

CAUSE HE IS NEVER WRONG!!! NO EXCEPTIONS!

Well I tell him he is wrong all day long.....

But online, this is not the first time... won't be the last, but might be the  funniest :headspin:  

dont you think its strange that you are the only odd one out here?

/me runs into corner and cries... shut down by Sydneykid   /

Can the REAL Son of Sydneykid please stand up.....

:wavey:

That's right, been here all along......

Don't diss la

[Sydneykid]

Wrong.  Thats like truck double clutching.  Not Racing double clutching... Doop!

Firstly Read post #27 & #24.

Lol mate, thats the other form of Double Clutching most people think when they hear that term.  You are ignorant like many others,i dont blame you but perhaps you should read posts 27 & 24 about Double Clutching which you've probably never even heard of before then read another about "Popping" & "Fanning" which is the same thing...  Once you have finally read the post and then know why double clutching is faster for turbo cars, you may be the once laughing at your self.  

"I can not believe anyone is that stupid"

Ignorance is Bliss aint it!  :flamed: hahah

:bs!:

[NewKleer]

guys i figured out why he gets higher speed with higher boost!

he's using tyres that expand when they heat up (some drag cars have this?). with the extra power he's getting, with the added excitement that he's gonna "double clutch" like in the movies, he performs his (incorrectly named) double clutching in each gear, he's spinning the wheels and getting another few cms diamater in the tyres with more heat than he could with the less power, therefore high speed in 2nd gear!!

(as for "granny shifting" claims, as if ur granny shifting ur not even really reaching full boost before changing, i dont see how he's getting 0-100 in 6s with that, man imagine the car when it hits full boost!!)

[rb25]

this thread is awesome. jamesh3, keep the :bs!: flowing, it's very entertaining.

-rb25 out

:headbang:

[JimX]

I guess if anyone is going to say that Sydneykid is wrong, it would have to be someone without a fundamental grasp of physics, or of the basics of how a car works.