Nsw Backflips On P-Plate Turbo Ban

[SargeRX8]

I don't understand. Is this rule strictly going to permit new lower powered turbo charged vehicles or is this rule going to permit ANY turbo charged vehicle with the power to rate ratio being followed.

Stupid rule. It isn't hard to get a VW gold to produce more power. What are the police going to do now, have portable dyno's to check all the P platers cars? Or have them all carry dyno slips. Or make it compulsory to get your car dyno'd at every registration. If these kids are still killing them selves on the roads, as the stats show, giving them vehicles with turbos which do have big capabilities for harnessing power seems silly.

They can already drive the R32 VW golf legally and that thing is a 0 - 100 in 5.6 second machine.

[B-rice]

not sure why but in Canberra we are allowed to drive turbo cars im still on my P's. But you have to sit a 2 or 3 day class before getting your Ls. I guess if they do this in any other state they might want to add a defensive driver course or something along those lines. Would like to know the statistics of P plater related accidents in Canberra and compare with NSW as a ratio.

[niZmO_Man]

ACT has less drivers and better roads, so comparing the stats isn't really fair.

[bored33]

I'm sorry. Where is Canberra?

[r32-25t]

No one cares

[zebra]

Not even those who live here.

It isnt the fatal accidents dowb here. It's every f**k knuckle p-plater doing burnouts at every interection in town on friday/saturday nights

[xntrq]

Not even those who live here.

It isnt the fatal accidents dowb here. It's every f**k knuckle p-plater doing burnouts at every interection in town on friday/saturday nights

Well EXCUUUUUUUUUUUSEEE ME...........

[SiNNO]

I thought everything was legal in Canberra lol

[bored33]

Selling fireworks was the best thing canberra ever allowed but now that is gone.

[S3RK]

Just because deaths have fallen since the ban doesn't mean it's directly related to the restrictions, how many of those p plater deaths prior to ban were actually turbo'd? Who knows... They just put all these statistics in everyone's heads to make it sound like turbo's are killers, when in reality, they're more cops on the road, technology of cars increases over the years providing much safer cars, plus all the other factors in "p plater deaths".

GTS = gay brakes.
GTST = much better brakes.
Which one will stop quicker? Well OBVIOUSLY the GTS, because it's not "powerful" enough to reach those ridiculous speeds. /sarcasm

I say, from a Green P plater (almost fulls) point of view, green p platers should be able to drive 130kw/t turbo's, do X amount of defensive driving courses and you can drive unrestricted. That's incentive for "hoons" to actually go and do a defensive driving course, because regardless of the car they're in, they gonna hoon. Then just hope they learn something from the courses. As with the added benefit of enthusiasts to also learn.

[chindodood]

just stick with honda n VTECCCCC

seen alot of them on cumberland highway tried to race me.. lol i usually just laugh at their face..

but i reckont he p plate ban is really.. back in 2003 alot of p platers got turbo car so everywhere u go u can hear BOV and ppl racing everywhere

Edited August 21, 2013 by chindodood

[MR33YO]

Back before the ban came in I had 6 frineds die and high speed crashes.

Not one was driving a Turbo or V8 car, all 4 cyliders.

I beleive it doesn't matter what the power of the car is, it comes down to the drive and how expirenced they are behind the wheel.

Give the P platers the right to drive these cars, but one mistake take that right away from the individual not the whole demographic...

[SargeRX8]

Back before the ban came in I had 6 frineds die and high speed crashes.

Not one was driving a Turbo or V8 car, all 4 cyliders.

I beleive it doesn't matter what the power of the car is, it comes down to the drive and how expirenced they are behind the wheel.

Give the P platers the right to drive these cars, but one mistake take that right away from the individual not the whole demographic...

Sorry to hear about your losses. Ive gotta add to this though. Sure none of them were driving v8s or turbos but believe you me there is a huge difference in driving a slow car at high speed vs driving a proper fast car. If you just got onto your ps and I gave you a manual excel told you to floor it down a one way length of roas. Youll be fine. If I gave you my skyline and told you to do the same thing you would potentially lost it before you got into second. I let a mate of mine drive my car. Hes never driven turbo and hes on his fulls. I told him to give it some and the moment from 1 to 2nd broke out he panicked and slammed on the brakes. This isnt experience you gain from a piece of plastic. You gotta learn fo crawl before you walk the figure out walking before you start running or youll fall down and hurt your self.

What if your mates were daily drivers of big v8 cars. Do you think as a young p plater they would respect the car or is it just a bigger faster louder toy.

[niZmO_Man]

^ As above, it all comes down to the driver. Kids will rebel and do stupid shit. Question is, what would you allow them to do it in? A 1.4L turbo Holden Cruze, which has stability/traction control, bunch of airbags and other safety features, or a VN Commodore?

You can only try to educate and train them. NSW license testing is piss easy, reverse parallel parking won't help you when you have to avoid another car. Hell, I've seen heaps of people on their fulls not know how to park or drive. To think they could be teaching kids how to drive!

I wonder where all the revenue from speed cameras/safety cameras, rego, etc are going to.

[Redline_GTR]

Agree driver education is key. Also if these safer cars will help then allow them to use them. But I don't see the point of how driving older 20+ year old cars just cause they are legally allowed to will add to a reduction of road fatalities or whatever the reasons they are pushing.

[MR33YO]

I know my point is the it doesn't matter at the end of the day all cars can do a high speed and anyone can lose control.

But I do agree with you for the most part.

I just don't think everyone should be punished for a few idiotsâ¦

[D_I_F]

I say make them all drive EH's. At least if they crash they are only going to hurt someone else lol..