Speeding

[xALmoN]

lol now we have people from other states coming in here.

[Odium]

O.P. is suddenly quiet...

Come on mate, don't need a licence to use a computer...

[xALmoN]

maybe he was speeding on his computer too.

[KezR33]

Can he still receive a summons to court at a later date?

Surely a fine for such excessive speeding will attract more attention.

[milanr34]

Wont go off at you - but ill tell you what will happen:

Going to court he will most likely add these

- Speeding -> License Suspension (1 Year at least)

- Driving Dangerously & Endangering Lives (Cancellation of License - Mandatory 6 month term)

The second bit is mandatory and your License will be cancelled and depending on your age you will have to either go on the P's again or you will have to wait out the Period before you can get your license back (e.g 1.5 years)

Having said that because you didn't have a fine in a long time is good - however at the speed you were going and the people in the car I can almost assure you you might have your license cancelled.

Not much you can do really bite the bullet or go see a lawyer.

Hope you don't go to the Dandenong Court as basically said no lawyer can help you there when it comes to speeding.

[Sunkist]

Lol Dandenong court. When I was 18 I was in a small accident, that for some un known reason police were called.

Was summoned to court over it. And the judge still took my license for 3 months after saying its good you had insurance and it was only a small accident but I think a $600 fine is not enough.

Yeh good luck at Dandenong, at least 2 years if you try and defend it.

[emts]

Charles, you would be able to travel but you would have to declare that you have a prior criminal conviction. Also will show up on police checks for employment, good luck explaining that to potential employer.

Location of offence does matter. Get caught at 150 in middle of nowhere in dry weather, probably not speed dangerous or conduct endangering, but do 100 in 50 zone in rain almost hitting kids at school crossing same speed offence but will have much higher penalty at court.

you can travel to some places,

but many block people with any conviction.

eg USA is then off limits.

Knew a guy who had a DUI and he could not get a visa to travel to the USA, (so he snuck in via canada..)

EU and such is fine as no visa is not needed.

[Iron Mike]

What's with everyone hanging it on the OP?? So what he messed up and did the wrong thing, who here hasn't? I see a lot of people making judgement calls like they are perfect drivers with perfect driving records and perfectly legal cars that are always 100% of the time law-abiding. Give him a break. He came on here for advice like we all do, not to be told how badly he's f*d up - quite clearly he already knows that. We all drive imports, we all like going fast, we've all done the wrong thing at some point. Some of us have been lucky and not been caught while others haven't been so lucky. I'd be very surprised if there was a single person on these forums that hadn't given their turbo a squirt on an open road....

Anyways in response to your question perzn_34, the best advice I can give you is cop it on the chin. Your chances of having the sentance reduced are very slim given the police caught you both on radar and camera, and if you go to court and plead not guilty and are found to still be guilty (which you will be) or plead guilty but your grounds are found to be frivolous (which they most likely will be) you will almost certainly end up with an even harsher punishment for wasting the court's time. It happens all the time and any experienced traffic lawyer will tell you this....save yourself the time, effort, money and heart ache, just bite the bullet.

[xALmoN]

Anyways in response to your question perzn_34, the best advice I can give you is cop it on the chin. Your chances of having the sentance reduced are very slim given the police caught you both on radar and camera, and if you go to court and plead not guilty and are found to still be guilty (which you will be) or plead guilty but your grounds are found to be frivolous (which they most likely will be) you will almost certainly end up with an even harsher punishment for wasting the court's time. It happens all the time and any experienced traffic lawyer will tell you this....save yourself the time, effort, money and heart ache, just bite the bullet.

has been mentioned a few times in the past 3 pages mate.

[Iron Mike]

has been mentioned a few times in the past 3 pages mate.

OP asked for thoughts and help - I offered both with reasoning. So what some of it was a reiteration?

[joeyjoejoejuniorshabadoo]

Andrew, there is no way in hell you will get your speed reduced enough at court to change the 12 month suspension. If you take matter to court you SHOULD get charged with conduct endangering life and speed dangerous. If convicted on those you WILL have a criminal conviction also so I think the choice is obvious. Just take the fine and suspension, you got off very easy.

I would have definitely charged you for all offences and impounded your car, IMO this is very slack by the police member.

Just incase you didn't work it out OP... gdogz is a copper, and you SHOULD listen to him here

[xALmoN]

OP asked for thoughts and help - I offered both with reasoning. So what some of it was a reiteration?

because we've heard it all before?

Well, if he wants to do it the dodgy way, does OP still have an interstate license? And also interstate registered cars? Because if he does, just drive on the interstate car and use his interstate license, till his suspension period is over.

[drunkn snail]

OP, i just got back on the road after doing the same 2 years ago

cops word against mine, had no real proof, claimed 150+ (followed me at speed and said i still pulled away), dual lit empty highway.

long story short, car impounded for 30 days on the spot $821, sent to court (9 months later), 1 year loss of licence, $750 donation to royal childrens hospital, defensive driving course $150+, awareness seminar $300, 12 month good behavior bond (whilst suspended).

when i got my licence back i had to restart my p's, i then recieved another letter from vicroads informing me i had lost 8 points for the offence, 2 options 12 months 0 points good behavior bond, or 3 months loss or licence, went with option one as option two means i add another 6months to my p's

basically your f**ked, the silver lining is you can drink as much as you want without the hassle of driving

p.s to the people that care about the skyline image i sold skyline bought a diesel lux which on my lastest high speed test maxed 105km on a 3km stretch of road, so no more speeding for me and wrecking the skyline name

[drunkn snail]

What's with everyone hanging it on the OP?? So what he messed up and did the wrong thing, who here hasn't? I see a lot of people making judgement calls like they are perfect drivers with perfect driving records and perfectly legal cars that are always 100% of the time law-abiding. Give him a break. He came on here for advice like we all do, not to be told how badly he's f*d up - quite clearly he already knows that. We all drive imports, we all like going fast, we've all done the wrong thing at some point. Some of us have been lucky and not been caught while others haven't been so lucky. I'd be very surprised if there was a single person on these forums that hadn't given their turbo a squirt on an open road....

this^

ive been to a couple of skyline hills meets before and i was doing 100+ trying to keep up with everyone boosting there cars up the road, and dont even start on the jdmst meet i went to (was cool to watch but didnt at all reflect how everyone acts online being the innocent import who did nothing wrong)

[joeyjoejoejuniorshabadoo]

OP, i just got back on the road after doing the same 2 years ago

cops word against mine, had no real proof, claimed 150+ (followed me at speed and said i still pulled away), dual lit empty highway.

long story short, car impounded for 30 days on the spot $821, sent to court (9 months later), 1 year loss of licence, $750 donation to royal childrens hospital, defensive driving course $150+, awareness seminar $300, 12 month good behavior bond (whilst suspended).

when i got my licence back i had to restart my p's, i then recieved another letter from vicroads informing me i had lost 8 points for the offence, 2 options 12 months 0 points good behavior bond, or 3 months loss or licence, went with option one as option two means i add another 6months to my p's

basically your f**ked, the silver lining is you can drink as much as you want without the hassle of driving

p.s to the people that care about the skyline image i sold skyline bought a diesel lux which on my lastest high speed test maxed 105km on a 3km stretch of road, so no more speeding for me and wrecking the skyline name

Hey Graham, whats the Deal here? shouldn't these 2 suspensions run concurrently?

[milanr34]

I've had something similar ages ago.....

Coming back from Bendigo I was speeding. Cop was driving opposite side of the freeway but turned on his radar. After about 5km of him catching up to me he pulled me over and explained that I was speeding and that his radar detects the fastest moving object.

I could have contested it as there was other speeding cars however I didnt know any better and I accepted it (I should have as I was driving 20km's over the limit - but not having ever pulled over before or having a fine i just thought it was me).

I was caught 38km over the limit so the fine was put as 35km over. That day VIC introduced the law if you speed 35 or over its an automatic 6 month suspension and 6pts.

After my 6 months I went to VIC roads and they told me on the spot I had to choose either 1 point for the whole year or another 3 month suspension (as i was on my P's).

The way it works is that a fine for speeding is one suspension, and the points system is another - so basically it doubles up (if you don't have any remaining pts left)

Same applies now just worse fines.

[Sunkist]

I don't think it's the fact that everyone's giving him shit about committing the offense, I think people are moreso pissed off, that he got caught doing it, with a full car load in the wet, knowing full well what the repocutions are for being caught, but still wants to fight it and plead not guilty after being caught, on film.

That is pretty stupid, and what the vast majority of people in this thread are saying.

[Plattsy]

doesnt matter.

[Birds]

We're also pissed off that these forums are our only avenue to project a better image for ourselves as enthusiasts, and instead idiots are using it so say "It's okay man, don't worry, EVERY Skyline owner does 180km/h on public roads; I got caught too and the law sucks."

It doesn't matter who you think speeds and who doesn't, how stupid can you be to say this shit in a thread about speeding on a Victorian forum about Skylines? Have you not heard of PR? All it does it mar our reputation, whether we are all guilty of it or not.

Amazing how only the guys stupid enough to be caught for it are the ones stupid enough to state that everyone does it...I see a correlation forming.

[Charles89]

basically your f**ked, the silver lining is you can drink as much as you want without the hassle of driving

LOL, that's a good one