Hyprocrisy's A Bitch Ain't It - "the Truth About Kilometers"

[dodgyimports]

No doubt many of you have read this blog article: "the Truth About Kilometers"

It's a good one, I have to say it very much rings true in my own experience.

You'd think that after a certain importer had a "coming to jesus" moment and before writing a great blog expose', and before reselling the services of an admittedly very useful odometer checking service - they would: "clear the decks", "make a clean sweep" etc...

And so we happen upon this lovely red evo 6 TME: http://www.carsales.com.au/dealer/details/Mitsubishi-Lancer-2000/AGC-AD-13862163/?Cr=1&sdmvc=1

WTF?

I have to say even I was convinced by the blog - making this all the more disappointing.

Edited August 14, 2013 by dodgyimports

[Import Monster]

oh snap.

[Redline_GTR]

That's disappointing

[BoyWhoCriedWolf]

lols

But I thought........

[Cherry Racer]

God bless the Internet.

Identifying this sort of thing would have been near on impossible in the past.

The ad currently reads 134,000km. Has it been updated?

Edited August 15, 2013 by Cherry Racer

[R31Nismoid]

Hmmm... Without original screen dumps (so people can't change things....) ... Gonna be hard to keep this thread open

[dodgyimports]

The ad currently reads 134,000km. Has it been updated?

Awww it looks like someone isn't playing fair - AGAIN. oh well - it's lucky i took some screenshots (click to view full size):

To their credit, thats a very quickly issued correction - respect. And at least these guy put VIN numbers on their carsales ad's - there are plenty of other dealers who post invalid VIN's or none at all - I wonder why?

Edited August 15, 2013 by dodgyimports

[Seano350GT]

you'd think they'd make it 134 xxx km's rather than 134,000 neat. every time i see even numbers like that i think it's dodgy.

[colourclassic]

you'd think they'd make it 134 xxx km's rather than 134,000 neat. every time i see even numbers like that i think it's dodgy.

Pretty sure carsales doesn't allow you to write 'xxx' in that field, so i think rounding to the nearest thousand (assuming it is legit!) is perfectly fine.

Edited August 15, 2013 by colourclassic

[maq23]

Maybe it was a genuine mistake? Seems pretty stupid that a company would go to such extreme lengths to give themselves a good name and then do something like this. Either way well spotted.

[GTR-N1]

Old Saying:- It can take 10yrs to build up trust - but 10mins to lose it.

[Seano350GT]

Pretty sure carsales doesn't allow you to write 'xxx' in that field, so i think rounding to the nearest thousand (assuming it is legit!) is perfectly fine.

i didn't mean actually writing XXX but i meant writing any combination of numbers that wasn't rounded.

[Cherry Racer]

It would have been interesting to see what they would have supplied in terms of certificates etc to support the kms they were originally claiming.

[Import Monster]

Generally what they rely upon is showing a copy of the Japanese deregistration which has the kms recorded upon it. People then make the assumption that the kms showing on the deregistration were taken when the vehicle was deregistered for export.
However in reality, the kms showing on the dereg are actually the kms recorded the last time the shaken was renewed which could be several years prior to dereg.

What some nice people are doing is rewinding the kms to the point showing on the dereg and then using the deregistration as "proof" that the kms are legit. If you're lucky enough to even see that certificate, you'd go away quite satisfied.

Unless you read what I just posted, of course.

[Bodella]

Generally what they rely upon is showing a copy of the Japanese deregistration which has the kms recorded upon it. People then make the assumption that the kms showing on the deregistration were taken when the vehicle was deregistered for export.

However in reality, the kms showing on the dereg are actually the kms recorded the last time the shaken was renewed which could be several years prior to dereg.

What some nice people are doing is rewinding the kms to the point showing on the dereg and then using the deregistration as "proof" that the kms are legit. If you're lucky enough to even see that certificate, you'd go away quite satisfied.

Unless you read what I just posted, of course.

I thought it had the dates for the Shaken on the dereg . Is it not clear? Trying to remember what mine looks like....

[Cherry Racer]

It does have have the dates as mine was inspected in 2009 and then 2011. Kms were 100% consistent with the certificate.

[Redline_GTR]

Generally what they rely upon is showing a copy of the Japanese deregistration which has the kms recorded upon it. People then make the assumption that the kms showing on the deregistration were taken when the vehicle was deregistered for export.

However in reality, the kms showing on the dereg are actually the kms recorded the last time the shaken was renewed which could be several years prior to dereg.

What some nice people are doing is rewinding the kms to the point showing on the dereg and then using the deregistration as "proof" that the kms are legit. If you're lucky enough to even see that certificate, you'd go away quite satisfied.

Unless you read what I just posted, of course.

Good point there, another thing to look out for.

[JapaneseOdoCheck]

Just to chime in..

The Car's KM's are definitely taken down when de-registered.

Every Customer's cert I have seen as a deregistration odo-check done ; a month before the Planned Date of Export on the Certificate.

[BlackTemplar]

Just to chime in..

The Car's KM's are definitely taken down when de-registered.

Every Customer's cert I have seen as a deregistration odo-check done ; a month before the Planned Date of Export on the Certificate.

funny how the carsales ad is changed to 134k kms now.....

[JapaneseOdoCheck]

Noticed today that the dealer in question has signed up to the forum today.