Who's Running A Wideband And What Are You Using?

[SS8_Gohan]

hey ho

thinking of changing my innvoate wideband over to something else... getting some weird readings from it and they appear to be fairly hit and miss units at the best of time anyway (lots of calibration required)

interested in who's running what.... zeitronix, aem have some decent rep from my google trawling (but mostly U.S. forums) - aem getting a lot of love.

don't need guages etc... just the sensor to provide a reading to the ECU, that's it.

thoughts, keen i am

chinny

[Ben C34]

I have a zeitronix zt2. had it for years. It interfaces no worries with nistune so that's cool.

[Missileman]

Just installed a Tech Edge 2COB, if I had to buy again I would pony up for 3A model with the added functionality of thermocouple inputs and the integrated USB port.

Tech Edge all the way, quality products, service and support, aussie too.

[SS8_Gohan]

Zeitronix:

http://www.zeitronix.com/Products/zt2/zt2.shtml

around $280 USD - no disply, that's fine. Some specs

• 0.1 AFR accuracy
• Operating voltage 10V to 18V
• Switching power supply for oxygen sensor heater
• Precise sensor temperature control
• Reverse polarity protection
• Integrated self-resetting fuse
• Positive lock connectors
• Protected inputs and outputs
• Flexible Plug and Play Sensor Harness with a small, easy to route through the fire wall, connector
• Wideband Oxygen Sensor included
• Easy to install plug and play kit
• Adjustable Narrowband Switching Point
• Warning Alarms and Triggers

• Bosch Wideband O2 sensor Input
• Linear Wideband Output AFR = Volts * 2 + 9.6
• Serial data output to the Zeitronix LCD, ZR-1 AFR, and ZR-2 Multi-Gauge Displays
• Serial data output for real time datalogging (PC laptop required)
• RPM Input (tachometer, primary side ignition coil, crank, cam sensor).
  The RPM input works in any car and any ignition system. No additional adapters needed!
• Simulated and adjustable Narrowband Output to feed a stock ECU
• Throttle Position Sensor Input
• Boost (MAP) Sensor Input:
  - 50 PSI (3.5 Bar) MAP Sensor, or 75 PSI (5.0 Bar) MAP sensor or
  150 PSI (10 Bar) MAP sensor
• Exhaust Gas Temperature (EGT) probe Input
• User1 Input:
  - 0-5 volt analog input. Voltage data is viewable on all models of the LCD display.
  Software support for the display of Zeitronix pressure sensors.
  - Customized data conversions can be entered to match 0-5 volt sensor specifications.
  All converted User1 data values are displayed only in the software.
• User2 Input:
  - 0-5 volt analog input OR configurable to be used with Fuel/Oil/Boost pressure sensors and Air/Water/Oil/Transmission temperature sensors.
  - Data is displayed on the 2010 Model LCD and ZR-2 Multi-gauge as a pressure or temperature.
  - Zeitronix Data Logger software will display and log data according to sensor type.
  - Customized data conversions can be entered to match 0-5 volt sensor specifications.
  Customized data conversion values are displayed in the Zeitronix Data Logger software only.
• Warning Output for use with ZAVT-1 warning/trigger box
• 5V output for sensors

Is that overkill in terms of that inputs and TPS/MAP sensor inputs? I don't need that info going to the wideband yeah?

3A Techedge is fairly pricey.... i take it there is more to just feeding an AFR reading to the ECU?

http://wbo2.com/home/products.htm

[Shazz]

I've been running a aem wideband with a Aem series 2 ecu. Work great with no issues at all. Not sure how it would interact with a different brand ecu, however I can't see why It would pose a problem as its a stand alone unit. Hoewever i sold It with the ecu and im now changing to haltech

[XRATED]

haltech

[SS8_Gohan]

i have a Link G4 plugin, and i believe we put it in there as a back-up to the ethanol sensor, so if it packs it in, and there's a weird mix in there, the wideband can jump in and changing timing etc.

i think Trent had it set to trim to target AFR on cruise as well? not sure if that's on at the moment.

So given that, i don't need anything serious yeah? Do i need a controller at all? or do i just need a sensor that feeds a signal to the ECU as that will control everything? Or do you always need that controller as an intermediary?

[Missileman]

The sensor needs to be heated hence you will need a driver / control unit.

Edited August 15, 2013 by Missileman

[GTRNUR]

I use just the PLX devices wideband module linked to a power fc data logit in my gtr. Ive also got 2 x EGT probes with sensor modules. Both modules output 0-5 v and the FC datalogit does the calibration/conversion to real values for me. The wideband has a simulated narrow band out, so the rear sensor can be replaced with the wideband, and close loop with 2 narrow bands will still work.

[Joshbigt62r]

So all things a side what is the actual best rated overall voted type of wide band gauge.

Josh.

[Ben C34]

So all things a side what is the actual best rated overall voted type of wide band gauge.

Josh.

everyone will have a different pion to that!

[jamesdt]

ive been looking into getting the ngk afx wideband set up, was going with that or innovate lm-2. in need of something easy enough to be portable

[WilYawn]

I have been using the AEM wideband for 6 years now, couldn´t be happier with it. Works great, no calibration needed and all the electronics fit in the 2" gauge

[SargeRX8]

Another aem uego. Works just fine with the power fc too. Installed in the standard location and still strong and accurate.

[SS8_Gohan]

is the 'no calibration' feature something unique to the AEM? because i think that's where my innovate is going shitty

[89CAL]

AEM UEGO here as well. Cant complain. Has done the job nicely so far

[NYTSKY]

+1 for Zeitronix.

[Joshbigt62r]

I think I'll be going with this ^^^

they seem to have the best feedback overall from what I've read.

Josh.

[Guilt-Toy]

Just installed a Tech Edge 2COB, if I had to buy again I would pony up for 3A model with the added functionality of thermocouple inputs and the integrated USB port.

Tech Edge all the way, quality products, service and support, aussie too.

^^^^^^

I used them when i was in australia, and i buy them from here also.

there is no need to buy anything else then a tech edge.

http://wbo2.com/2j/2j9.htm

$254 with no display. you can buy a dial gauge or a square one if needed. all the displays are backwards and forward compatible.

You are not obliged to buy the sensor from tech edge also, when i need a sensor i go to the VW spare parts shop and get one from a VW Jedda!

I think the late model commodore sensors fit also, there is lots of info on the web site on which sensor you can / cannot use.

the guy has been making them from his home in Canberra for as long as i can remember and he will reply to a support email usually the same day and is available on the phone if you want to bug him.

go tech edge, its the only option for a wide band these days IMO.

[Hanaldo]

I'm using an AEM UEGO as well. Thing is, I'm not totally confident it is 100% accurate. I have a feeling it might read a bit rich, otherwise my tune is extremely rich. Frequently seeing ~12.5 on cruise. But I need to ask my tuner to check how accurate it is next time it goes on the dyno.

That said, I'm otherwise happy with the AEM. I've just finished wiring it into my G4 expansion harness which was very straight forward. The Zeitronix kit looks the goods as well though!