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however both Mafia and I aren't killing them through sensor positioning.. they're killing themselves... it's a known fact Innovate likes munching sensors.

The sensors are okay for me. Its the POS controller. Both of my LM2 units died. Sensors tested okay

Not suggesting that was the case at all, just clarifying where to position the sensor for maximum life and accuracy, you don't want it getting too hot and you don't want it getting wet from condensation.

I put mine where the cat would be. only been in use for 10-11 months. Was verified as accurate when new on dyno. Had car on dyno for touch up the other day and gauge was out by 0.8 afr. Showing leaner than actual. In fairness I haven't calibrated it in about 5-6 months, laziness. I will re calibrate it soon and see if it improves. Other than that, no issues but once it did get stuck in heating mode, lucky I realised and shut it down and it was fine after a restart. I have a suspicion that if I didn't catch it in time it would've fried itself.

Me and another tuner friend have been doing experiments with widebands to understand them better and see which perform the best.

Just remember that some are slow and some are fast.

ALM was meant to be the fastest, but I do not like the idea of overseas support. Techedge seem to be okay, but I need one to test.

We had 3 in a gas chamber - Autronic, Innovate LM2, and a ALM with a screen. The autronic was the best but doesn't support 4.9 sensors. (They are also expensive!) The others were using the 4.9 sensors.

When the AFRs go under 10, there are so fairly big discrepancies!

Also at leaner mixtures above 15:1

Be very mindful on picking a wideband. Personally, at this stage I think Techedge is the best, but I want to buy one and try it out.

So when you say that the controller cooks the sensor, do you literally mean that the heating control destroys the sensor? If its a heating logic issue, hopefully its something that can be remedied by a firmware update, rather than being a hardware issue.

Its the high current to heat the sensor that would be killing them. The sensor is connected and controlled through the gauge, so if it is outputting a large current output for too long, it all goes through the gauge, and high current = heat.

I installed an MTX-L to mine not long ago. So far so good. Quicker response than the AFM and was much easier to calibrate to the Link

I have an Innovate LC-2 connected to my Adaptronic and displayed via a custom Raspberri PI solution. The sensor is located in the recommended position about 30cm in front of my cat.

The LC-2 semi-regularly fails to acquire lock (the status LED stays flashing in warm-up mode) for an entire drive, or will occasionally find a lock after driving for 30-45 minutes.

Other times, when it's working properly, I can start the car from dead cold in the morning and it has acquired lock and showing me AFRs in about 10 seconds.

I would not buy one again, the reliability is poor. This kind of thing should work 100% of the time. I emailed Innovate to ask them about it and was ignored. No vendor support = why bother.

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happen to share the raspberri display ? I want to replace my non working clock and put a screen there for the wb gauge, but they dont make anything commercial that fits.

I have an Innovate LC-2 connected to my Adaptronic and displayed via a custom Raspberri PI solution. The sensor is located in the recommended position about 30cm in front of my cat.

The LC-2 semi-regularly fails to acquire lock (the status LED stays flashing in warm-up mode) for an entire drive, or will occasionally find a lock after driving for 30-45 minutes.

Other times, when it's working properly, I can start the car from dead cold in the morning and it has acquired lock and showing me AFRs in about 10 seconds.

I would not buy one again, the reliability is poor. This kind of thing should work 100% of the time. I emailed Innovate to ask them about it and was ignored. No vendor support = why bother.

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