Mugabetown - Whoretownin' At It's Worst.

[TREGTR]

Who wants to go to Oktoberfest?

http://www.oktoberfestbrisbane.com.au/tickets/

If it's a Saturday. I'll be in on this.

[t5iv]

Was thinking about heading out for the Saturday

[TREGTR]

never EVER seen a job card at any workshops.

Just run in tune man.

Nothing else.

I paid Gavin Wood 11ty billion dollars to get everything else sorted.

Can't help but think something is deliberately causing the delay now

Always put everything on job card including their quote prices and cross out any terms you don't agree to - that way you can rely on false and misleading representation provisions in the Competition & Consumer Act.

[TREGTR]

Was thinking about heading out for the Saturday

Awesome.

[TREGTR]

Hopefully Nick goes, I want to see how the hell he got an LS1 into a Skyline.

[Matty95]

This is bs I got the biggest headache feel sick as fuaaa and light headed

[Ants]

How come you didn't get Gavin to tune it? Doesn't he have a dyno anymore?

6+ weeks for a run in tune is BS.

yep. He doesn't have a dyno anymore and hires Hi-Torque Performance dyno and he does not have any experience in tuning Haltech ECU

[MagicMikeZ32]

Shame. Always good to let the builder to do the tune

Hopefully it all turns out ok in the end.

Out of interest, how much are you expecting this 'run in tune' to cost?

[Ants]

Shame. Always good to let the builder to do the tune

Hopefully it all turns out ok in the end.

Out of interest, how much are you expecting this 'run in tune' to cost?

Yeah, I know this but Gav took fkn ages to complete the work and again he is not proficient in tuning Hatlech ECU's.

Better not be out of this world expensive I tell ya.

Never had to pay more than $700-$800 for tuning before

I am expecting about the same with additional costs for fuel, filter + oil change and whatever the cost is for fixing the elusive Hatlech ECU problem.

[TREGTR]

Was thinking about heading out for the Saturday

19th works

[t5iv]

http://www.news.com.au/business/markets/what-happens-if-the-us-government-shuts-down/story-e6frfm30-1226730724779

It's been on the cards for some time now but it has finally happened....

[t5iv]

19th works

Looks good for me as well. Who else is in? Melly said that she was keen. Cadmoon would b interested. McFly would be keen as!

[Beelzebub89]

Call him and speak to him. Better getting the info from him rather than speculating on what the hold up is.

That shit can be very damaging to a company when all this back and forth is going on and nobody finds out what the real problem was. Speculation gets out of control and then the rumours start. We should be helping our sponsors get away from that.

My car was tuned there and I had the same issue. They're very difficult to get any communication going on and the only time they initiated it with me it was to tell me it was done. If you want to know all the in between details then you have to pester them relentlessly and they will get pissy at you for it I guarantee it but I havent heard of any shops that are different. That is the reality that we have to deal with.

If it was anything serious they would have callef by now. They have nothing to gain from not telling you.

Just trying to play devils advocate here. EFI are a sponsor and we should be giving them the benefit of the doubt.

[Ants]

Always put everything on job card including their quote prices and cross out any terms you don't agree to - that way you can rely on false and misleading representation provisions in the Competition & Consumer Act.

Dude....................although I would welcome such a practice being adopted throughout the industry, the bottom line is that these are performance workshops we are talking about and they unfortunately (for me) so far all have failed to demonstrate such customer serviceability.

Here is what I believe, they have a charge out rate just like you and I do - add that rate to hrs completed to the job and and then they add their profit margin on top of that, to ensure they are not operating at a loss.

That is how I think MAJORITY of them work.

This is certainly different to how you or I work. We have a budget and either you meet that budget or you don't and we have procedures in place should we think we cannot meet that budget.

Theses performance workshops have no such mentality and I think is a big weakness in their industry.

This is just my opinion.........................................I'm hoping to be proven wrong...............................but I doubt it.

[TREGTR]

http://www.news.com.au/business/markets/what-happens-if-the-us-government-shuts-down/story-e6frfm30-1226730724779

It's been on the cards for some time now but it has finally happened....

Oh shit- that isn't good. Wait, wait... Yes it is Summit Racing here I come

[Ants]

Call him and speak to him. Better getting the info from him rather than speculating on what the hold up is.

That shit can be very damaging to a company when all this back and forth is going on and nobody finds out what the real problem was. Speculation gets out of control and then the rumours start. We should be helping our sponsors get away from that.

My car was tuned there and I had the same issue. They're very difficult to get any communication going on and the only time they initiated it with me it was to tell me it was done. If you want to know all the in between details then you have to pester them relentlessly and they will get pissy at you for it I guarantee it but I havent heard of any shops that are different. That is the reality that we have to deal with.

If it was anything serious they would have callef by now. They have nothing to gain from not telling you.

Just trying to play devils advocate here. EFI are a sponsor and we should be giving them the benefit of the doubt.

EFI is a sponsor indeed............................hence I am playing my cards right.

I will speak to Sean tomorrow to get some clarity regarding the (lack) of progress on my car and why I am not been kept in the loop e.g. why my ECU was sent to Haltech for repair without my consent or knowledge.

Its so far not a good look either way.

[TREGTR]

Dude....................although I would welcome such a practice being adopted throughout the industry, the bottom line is that these are performance workshops we are talking about and they unfortunately (for me) so far all have failed to demonstrate such customer serviceability.

Here is what I believe, they have a charge out rate just like you and I do - add that rate to hrs completed to the job and and then they add their profit margin on top of that, to ensure they are not operating at a loss.

That is how I think MAJORITY of them work.

This is certainly different to how you or I work. We have a budget and either you meet that budget or you don't and we have procedures in place should we think we cannot meet that budget.

Theses performance workshops have no such mentality and I think is a big weakness in their industry.

This is just my opinion.........................................I hoping to be proven wrong...............................but I doubt it.

I think you're right. The big problem is all the cash jobs and they don't account for hours or efficiency on each job. There are a couple of good ones, but you're right there is no rhyme or reason to how the client is charged.

I have an offshore powerboat and guy that was doing overhaul drives, wanted me to sign a blank job card. I wrote on that job card till my hand hurt and then negotiated the terms on the bottom of page. Later tried to charge me 20k. My response, who authorised the additional cost? Not me read the contract.

[TREGTR]

EFI is a sponsor indeed............................hence I am playing my cards right.

I will speak to Sean tomorrow to get some clarity regarding the (lack) of progress on my car and why I am not been kept in the loop e.g. why my ECU was sent to Haltech for repair without my consent or knowledge.

Its so far not a good look either way.

Give Haltech a call to make sure they did actually receive a computer to diagnose from him today.

[Ants]

I think you're right. The big problem is all the cash jobs and they don't account for hours or efficiency on each job. There are a couple of good ones, but you're right there is no rhyme or reason to how the client is charged.

I have an offshore powerboat and guy that was doing overhaul drives, wanted me to sign a blank job card. I wrote on that job card till my hand hurt and then negotiated the terms on the bottom of page. Later tried to charge me 20k. My response, who authorised the additional cost? Not me read the contract.

exactly. It really makes u think how twice how they do business.........No such thing as good business ethics within this industry

[Ants]

Give Haltech a call to make sure they did actually receive a computer to diagnose from him today.

did it last week mate and they did. I just don't have any paperwork supporting this.