masasaki2342 Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 I'm pretty sure everyone thrashes their skyline once in a while and so I wanted to ask what are some basic mods that will ensure, while I'm gunning it, I don't blow a gasket or something . I'm replacing the gasket in a few days as one measure, but are there any other recommendations? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/431446-thrashed-r33-s2/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh080691 Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 Maintain it and if done right it will take a beating Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/431446-thrashed-r33-s2/#findComment-7007113 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piggaz Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 Good tune, good fuel and decent oil. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/431446-thrashed-r33-s2/#findComment-7007128 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben C34 Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 What gasket are you replacing? There are quite a few. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/431446-thrashed-r33-s2/#findComment-7007136 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTSBoy Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 And don't hang it up on the rev limiter. If you clip it every now and then, no problem. If you run up against it regularly and for extended times, expect it all to go pop. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/431446-thrashed-r33-s2/#findComment-7007138 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben C34 Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 I'm going to assume head gasket. There's no way I would replace a working head gasket as a preventative measure. What mods have you done? What parts have been replaced? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/431446-thrashed-r33-s2/#findComment-7007144 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dose Pipe Sutututu Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 An oil cooler is a worthwhile mod Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/431446-thrashed-r33-s2/#findComment-7007218 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben C34 Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 Also I would say knowing what pinging is and what it sounds like is beneficial. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/431446-thrashed-r33-s2/#findComment-7007253 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTSBoy Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 Also I would say knowing what pinging is and what it sounds like is. It sounds like POWER!!! Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/431446-thrashed-r33-s2/#findComment-7007296 Share on other sites More sharing options...
iruvyouskyrine Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 Also I would say knowing what pinging is and what it sounds like is beneficial. I might look stupid for saying this, but I 100% agree. I haver never been in a car that has pinged and I would love to know what it actually sounds like. I understand how detrimental it can be to an engine and being able to hear it and know what that means is a very good preventative measure and could save you an engine rebuild. I just assume that it would be a fairly audible noise and would present itself as a decent loss in power/acceleration. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/431446-thrashed-r33-s2/#findComment-7007305 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTSBoy Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 It sounds like a few angry little men beating away on the inside of the engine with tiny hammers. Like a rattle of stones being dropped on a tin roof. Really rapid rattle. No noticeable loss of power or acceleration need be apparent. Engines actually make the most power when right on the verge of detonation. So the car will usually be going really well right up until the instant it happens, especially if the knock is caused by something like a failing fuel pump that is gradually losing the fight to keep the fuel flow up. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/431446-thrashed-r33-s2/#findComment-7007311 Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty nm35 Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 Engines actually make the most power when right on the verge of detonation. Petrol engines anyway. Nails on a tin roof, just listen to an Excel going up a hill. 1 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/431446-thrashed-r33-s2/#findComment-7007322 Share on other sites More sharing options...
iruvyouskyrine Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 (edited) Haha fair enough. I'm sure when I hear it I will just be like, yep, that's pinging alright. Also make sure you have a good quality radiator and a a decent water/coolant mix with good quality coolant and preferably demineralised water (better but not a necessity). I think you will be surprised how well a stockish car that uses good quality oil and coolant, and has a good oil and water cooling setup will last even when thrashing it at track/drift days. Use a little common sense and keep it off the limiter, and I can almost guarantee that you will get a few years of hard driving from it before something major happens Edited September 6, 2013 by iruvyouskyrine Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/431446-thrashed-r33-s2/#findComment-7007419 Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenCJR31 Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 det isnt always audible, even if the knock sensors pick up slight det then the ecu will wind back the ignition timing and there wilbe a loss of power Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/431446-thrashed-r33-s2/#findComment-7007425 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SargeRX8 Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 As others said, keep fresh oil quality oil in there, make sure your coolant is nice and green. Do your maintenance work and she'll be good. If you've got a big exhaust you might find it hard to hear the det. Maybe worth while investing in knock sensors with visual feedback. Maybe there is a way to intercept the standard knock sensor loom and build and wire it up to a gauge modified for knock. Don't hold me to this as I am not sure if the unit transmit a signal of resistance(more resistance more knock or the other way around) or if it sends a direct sound signal and the ECU interprets the noise. Ive also read knocking could sound like chains being dragged underneath the car. I have never heard knock from my car but Ive seen it bounce around on my power fc. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/431446-thrashed-r33-s2/#findComment-7007486 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missileman Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 And don't hang it up on the rev limiter. If you clip it every now and then, no problem. If you run up against it regularly and for extended times, expect it all to go pop. An oil cooler is a worthwhile mod These two and a oil temp gauge, stop thrashing before 120c 1 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/431446-thrashed-r33-s2/#findComment-7007557 Share on other sites More sharing options...
masasaki2342 Posted September 6, 2013 Author Share Posted September 6, 2013 These two and a oil temp gauge, stop thrashing before 120c I don't limited bash, but sometimes I push it to 5K in 1st and I'm scared clutch is going to go if I keep on driving like that. I will be installing my temp gauge soon. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/431446-thrashed-r33-s2/#findComment-7007580 Share on other sites More sharing options...
masasaki2342 Posted September 6, 2013 Author Share Posted September 6, 2013 Good tune, good fuel and decent oil. Now when ypu say oil what kind of oil is 'good' in your opinion? Might need to top off soon and top off on my coolant. What gasket are you replacing? There are quite a few. Rocket cover gaskets. Are they the same as head gaskets? An oil cooler is a worthwhile mod Hmmm....never heard of oil coolers. Had a google and I'm a bit confused. Isn't oil supposed to remain hot to be efficient in terms of flowing through the engine? Also where do you mount them because some of them look like mini intercoolers. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/431446-thrashed-r33-s2/#findComment-7007587 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missileman Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 5K is ok so is 6, after 7 is where you need to careful Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/431446-thrashed-r33-s2/#findComment-7007610 Share on other sites More sharing options...
masasaki2342 Posted September 6, 2013 Author Share Posted September 6, 2013 By the way thanks for all the legit comments. Was expecting hate. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/431446-thrashed-r33-s2/#findComment-7007613 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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