Haltech Ps 2000 Vs Pro Plug In

[Mick_o]

I agree Marty I have heard nothing but good things bout their after sales service! But buy an improving product or buy 1 that works? I wouldn't risk my motor on an "improving product"

  On 01/10/2013 at 7:54 AM, Hanaldo said:

Haltech are a big company with 28 people employed doing nothing but improving their existing products and coming up with new ones. If there is an issue with their ECU's, they will help get it sorted.

[XRATED]

  On 01/10/2013 at 6:23 AM, Mick_o said:

Dont buy a haltech! Look at the failure rates/issues on here lately. . Be crazy to buy 1! I can show you a viseo that will also change your mind

What drugs are you smoking???

[Mick_o]

Read Ants thread? Brand new outta the box didn't work pretty sure Matt 34geeteetee had dramas with his too. Also read some evo boys having dramas with them & not to mention my tuners experiences with them.

  On 01/10/2013 at 12:21 PM, XRATED said:

What drugs are you smoking???

[Hanaldo]

And they sorted it out quick smart. Its also not like it was a dangerous problem, it just had a malfunction with the com ports. Not anything that is gonna risk the engine. I don't recall Mat having any problems with his, and he loves it haha.

I don't think Haltech is an 'up-and comer', they are well established. 28 full time employees is a big company. I know reading on the Link forums that there have been a few failures there, and countless Power FC's have had issues. Doesn't make them a dud product.

[Mick_o]

So why didn't you buy a haltech? Lol

  On 01/10/2013 at 12:59 PM, Hanaldo said:

And they sorted it out quick smart. Its also not like it was a dangerous problem, it just had a malfunction with the com ports. Not anything that is gonna risk the engine. I don't recall Mat having any problems with his, and he loves it haha.

I don't think Haltech is an 'up-and comer', they are well established. 28 full time employees is a big company. I know reading on the Link forums that there have been a few failures there, and countless Power FC's have had issues. Doesn't make them a dud product.

[XRATED]

Any mechanical or electrical part/component/system or divice will have it's fair share of failure or issues, it's the way of the world... Every single brand of aftermarket ecu have a percentage of failure rate.

... if Haltech were such a bad product as you suggest, how are they still in buisness?

Have you owned a haltech ecu? have you owned more than one? are you a professional tuner without ecu bias? is the 'tuner' your are reffering to unbiased?

I have one, I love it, it works well for me.

[Shoota_77]

Going back to the OP's actual question, they do seem to read quite similar in specs.

They both look to have 3D mapping (for flex fuel), sequential injection and direct fire ignition.

The PS2000 has wideband and narrowband 02 control whereas the Pro only has narrow.

The PS2000 has a bigger internal MAP sensor 2.5 bar compared with 1.5 in the Pro.

Pro has 8 inputs (with the addition of another cable) PS2000 has 11 built in.

PS2000 has variable cam timing control.

PS2000 has hard and soft cut rev limiter

PS2000 can control injection based on exhasut gas temp changes.

Basically the PS2000 looks to be a lot more advanced in what inputs it can use to automatically alter the tune on the fly.

If you're sticking with a pretty standard setup the Pro would be more than enough. If you're going to go crazy and spend hours on the dyno getting the car running better than when it came from the factory (and juist as reliable in terms of no dangerous lean outs, etc) then the PS2000 is for you.

For $500 it's probably worth spending a bit more now so you don't regret it in 12 months.

[Hanaldo]

  On 01/10/2013 at 1:11 PM, Mick_o said:

So why didn't you buy a haltech? Lol

Because at the time, Haltech didn't make a plug in board for the 34. That has only just hit the market, in fact it might still even be due for release to the public. I was never interested in going wire-in, so Haltech just wasn't an option for me.

Don't get me wrong, I'm very happy with my Link, but I do think Haltech is a fantastic product as well. I went to a tech night of theirs a few weeks ago, and I wouldn't hesitate to buy a Haltech product after that.

[Shoota_77]

I love their Youtube videos! They're awesome. Within reason would give me the confidence at having a crack at tuning myself. Only problem is most tuners won't touch a tune that's already been done. They'd just wipe it and start all over!

If you added flex fuel or boost control later the videos would definately be a huge help.

[black bnr32]

  On 02/10/2013 at 12:18 AM, Shoota_77 said:

The PS2000 has wideband and narrowband 02 control whereas the Pro only has narrow.

I checked the software that you can download from Haltech, and this is false. the Pro will do wideband.

[Shoota_77]

Cool, you don't need help then.

[DMAN#20]

+1. Haltech platinum pro, threw vipec in the bin massive issues and no tech support

[XRATED]

I think people underestimate the time and effort it takes to wire in a standalone ecu. I would rate my electrical skills as above average and it took me a good 30-40hrs to run and terminate the ecu engine wiring (especially with motorsport bulkhead connectors etc).

I'm using every channel at the moment and will be going to an expansion unit soon, however if you aren't trying to run lots of extra crazy stuff a plug in will save lots and lots of time and money (my loom, plugs and extra sensors probably added up to around 3k).

Later on down the line, if you do need more in's and out's then the can bus expansion units are available. Additionally, Haltech are releasing a can buss O2 module that will solve the O2 issue.

Cheers

J.

[Dahtone Racing]

Everyone has their own preference to ECUs and it's a never ending debate.
We use Haltech and have NEVER had any problems, I've also used a Link and the car ran like a bag of nuts.
I'm sure others have had the opposite experience.
Haltech support is fantastic from my experience.

[luke gtr]

  On 01/10/2013 at 11:37 PM, XRATED said:

Any mechanical or electrical part/component/system or divice will have it's fair share of failure or issues, it's the way of the world... Every single brand of aftermarket ecu have a percentage of failure rate.

... if Haltech were such a bad product as you suggest, how are they still in buisness?

Have you owned a haltech ecu? have you owned more than one? are you a professional tuner without ecu bias? is the 'tuner' your are reffering to unbiased?

I have one, I love it, it works well for me.

this.

I wouldnt go any other ecu after owning one.

[black bnr32]

I think I require a true expert to help me through this. I have out grown the power fc and I have an idea of what I need, but it's still difficult to know what's actually important in the world of ECUs.

[luke gtr]

the most important thing with ecus, is they do what you want them to, and the tuner you use can tune them.

tick those 2 boxes, and youre laughing.

[Shoota_77]

  On 02/10/2013 at 5:35 PM, black bnr32 said:

I think I require a true expert to help me through this. I have out grown the power fc and I have an idea of what I need, but it's still difficult to know what's actually important in the world of ECUs.

Huh? If you have an idea what you need and you believe you've outgrown the FC then you must know what you need? What is the FC not doing that you think you need? Find and ECU that does do this for you and buy that one. As has been aluded to before, ask the bloke that's going to tune the car for you. Tell him what you're chasing and let him have a say rather than rock up with your new ECU only for him to say he doesn't tune that ECU as many unfortunate people have copped before.

[scotty nm35]

If your tuner won't tune a Haltech PS2000/platinum pro, run the other way.

[black bnr32]

I am the tuner. Doesn't mean I know the exact differences between the pro and 2000. I figured some here have set up and tuned both, and wanted to share their thoughts.