What To Pay For New R35?

[essay]

Hi guy's, looking at a white with black interior. What to pay without trade? My rule of thumb is take 10% off list so approx low 170K OTR. Correct me if wrong

Thanks in advance

[MJR35]

Serge, thats probably a reasonable place start. I found the WA Dealers aggressive with their pricing.. Should try them first...

[Seano350GT]

I've been in new and used vehicle sales for several years and have never seen a 10% mark up in price.. in saying that i've never worked in new cars for Nissan so i couldn't tell you what sort of profit margin is in them.

I'm guessing, given the price tag and the type of vehicle the GTR is, there would be in excess of $8,000 profit margin.

Given that the GTR is hand built and not mass produced, most dealerships will be low in stock (probably 2-3 at a time at most).

Dealerships will not "give away" these cars meaning you will be lucky to get any form of discount at all. (at least this is the story at Hyundai especially with the Santa Fe). I would strongly suggest going into the dealership that has the colour you want in stock and giving them a credit card closer to the end of the month, this will help you try and get a discount given it will count for that months figures providing you can take delivery before end of month.

Goodluck with your purchase, i would love to own one some day.

[turboadam]

somewhere between the 2 replies so far would be around the mark I think.

If you were to pick up a 2013 once the 2014 has been released, you will see a much greater discount. This would be because nissan australia would offer rebates to move the old floor stock. This is how I bought mine.

Also - go in on the last days of the month, before end of financial yr is a great time. Tell them upfront that you will buy a car TODAY if the price is right. Be prepared to walk away if the price is not good enough for you. If they let you walk that was the best price you were going to get. Having said that, another dealers best price could be better. This applies when buying any car.

[Seano350GT]

Agree with what Adam says, usually when a new model or facelift model comes out the previous model will reduce in price. I don't know what the differences between the MY13 and MY14 is with the GTR but the discount that goes to the MY13 model car will usually be $1000 or $2000 max.

We work off committments - if you walk in there and drive the car and express to the sales person that you want to own this car today and physically give them your credit card they will speak to their manager and work out a figure for you.

Ask to see pricing at retail first though.

Every dealership in the country pays the same price for the cars, the only difference is that some dealerships need to pay freight from where the vehicle docks in the country to get it to their dealership. It just comes down to which dealership is prepared to discount their car the most, and as i originally said i can only assume most of them will not be willing to give you much discount at all given the type of car and stock situation.

[gts-4 dreamer]

Never more than 10k markup.

wash your mouth out with soap you lying car salesman. Next your going to argue semantics with me.

[Seano350GT]

Never more than 10k markup.

wash your mouth out with soap you lying car salesman. Next your going to argue semantics with me.

excuse me?

might want to read what i wrote again. 10% mark up not 10k.

[essay]

Example of dealer markup: Ferrari f430 Challenge sold by owner for the asking price, $147K, the same car advertised by Ferrari motorsport specialist in Melbourne for $220K. This car was sold last week.

[Seano350GT]

Example of dealer markup: Ferrari f430 Challenge sold by owner for the asking price, $147K, the same car advertised by Ferrari motorsport specialist in Melbourne for $220K. This car was sold last week.

In this case, it is a mark up from trade-price to retail sale price... happens all the time.

When i said "never seen a 10% mark up in price" i meant from brand new. Meaning difference between cost price from factory to retail sale price.

[Seano350GT]

Example of dealer markup: Ferrari f430 Challenge sold by owner for the asking price, $147K, the same car advertised by Ferrari motorsport specialist in Melbourne for $220K. This car was sold last week.

After reading this again i find that very hard to believe.. $73,000 mark up is absurd. Have you got proof?

[essay]

After reading this again i find that very hard to believe.. $73,000 mark up is absurd. Have you got proof?

Sorry, it sold for $143K privately as against an ask at the dealer of $220K, lol. Happy to provide links as follows

www.my105.com/11026

www.maranellomotorsport.com.au/cars-for-sale/race-cars/

[turboadam]

Don't expect to drive a GT-R before you sign. Certainly, in SA (there is only 1 dealer there) test drives were either non existent or extremely rare. I didn't expect or care to have one either! The vast majority of real GT-R buyers know that they want one, know they can afford one and don't need a test drive. Other dealerships may give them out but that qwas my experience. The sales guy told me after i'd bought mine that he couldn't recall any SA (BUYER) in the past wanting one.

Re the credit card bit, sure, be prepared to sign & buy on the day to get the best real discount, but don't hand over the CC until you have agreed on a price and have a signed contract in your hand. Handing over a cc before this is a recipe to full tote odds, but i'm sure we are all savvy buyers here.

[MJR35]

Serge, its a obvious one, but dont forget the impact of re-calculation of LCT and the other Taxes after you negotiated a better deal from the dealer. A reduction to Drive Away price for you will be from Dealer Margin / Manufacturer rebate and reduction of those taxes.. (LCT is calculated on 33% over $60K )

[scarf]

Hi guy's, looking at a white with black interior. What to pay without trade? My rule of thumb is take 10% off list so approx low 170K OTR. Correct me if wrong

Thanks in advance

Should have no problem getting one for low 170's. There not all 190K OTR. Take example below, that would be 6-7K off the asking price vs 19K off.

http://www.carsales.com.au/demo/details/Nissan-GT-R-2013/AGC-AD-14542007/?Cr=4&sdmvc=1

[BLISTC]

hey guys sorry to revive an old thread just need some guidance in purchasing a gtr.

right now are they MY14 or MY13?

i was looking at a black luxury spec gtr currently advertise on carsales for approx. 176k ... i went to have a look at it, its the dealership owners car - approx 2000kms on the clock.

i asked them if they could better the price and they refused to budge, even on a new one. i felt the salesperson was a bit rude and pushy and wanted a CC deposit on the spot for the advertised price (no discount not a cent) and hence probably thought i was wasting their time (i am a younger guy so probably thought i was dreaming)

i already have finance organised and approved.

so whats the go? is this a good price or am i being taken for a ride?

ideally id rather purchase a new one in the colour and spec i want (white with luxury spec interior) but if this is a good deal i may have to settle for this.

i will take some advice and do as you guys said and look to buy and wait (painfully) towards end of this month hopefully looking to get a better deal.

finally, what is a good rate for finance these days, i have been approved at a business rate of 6% but wondering if there is any better out there either through a bank or broker or finance company, or the dealer themselves.

thanks

Edited March 4, 2014 by BLISTC

[alpha35]

The new gtr is MY14 here and MY15 in the US. It comes with revised headlights and tail lights and a new red (they have kept the old red also). For that price you were quoted i would wait for an MY14, i saw a few MY13 gtrs recently go for 162g from a dealer with only 2000km on them. I wouldnt waste your time with this dealer, they sound rude to me. As for finance not to sure on that one, but i think 6% is a great deal. Good luck!

[Cowboy1600]

hey guys sorry to revive an old thread just need some guidance in purchasing a gtr.

right now are they MY14 or MY13?

i was looking at a black luxury spec gtr currently advertise on carsales for approx. 176k ... i went to have a look at it, its the dealership owners car - approx 2000kms on the clock.

i asked them if they could better the price and they refused to budge, even on a new one. i felt the salesperson was a bit rude and pushy and wanted a CC deposit on the spot for the advertised price (no discount not a cent) and hence probably thought i was wasting their time (i am a younger guy so probably thought i was dreaming)

i already have finance organised and approved.

so whats the go? is this a good price or am i being taken for a ride?

ideally id rather purchase a new one in the colour and spec i want (white with luxury spec interior) but if this is a good deal i may have to settle for this.

i will take some advice and do as you guys said and look to buy and wait (painfully) towards end of this month hopefully looking to get a better deal.

finally, what is a good rate for finance these days, i have been approved at a business rate of 6% but wondering if there is any better out there either through a bank or broker or finance company, or the dealer themselves.

thanks

Whereabouts in Sydney are you? I can give you the name of a GOOD p&e broker near you. The worst they can do is not be able to get a better rate than 6%.

[MJR35]

Mark, I agree with Nick, would try to get MY14.. I believe the first shipments Nissan are delivering to their dealers in the next few weeks.. In speaking with my dealer in QLD, their initial shipment of 8 x MY14's, 5 are pre-sold, so I assume they are not rushing to discount the new model at the moment.. Don't know what dealer in sydney you were given the cold shoulder from , but quite a few of my R35 mates in Sydney swear by Col Crawfords.. Good Luck..

[Nee-san]

Buy a 911

[scarf]

Cole Crawford had a gun metal grey R35 a few months ago and have had nothing as far as I'm aware in the showroom for months. I have to say the gunmetal colour has become my favourite after seeing its at Crawfords.

Blisc, I've also gone over to campbelltown. They had 3 R35s a months or so back. I could imagine they get a lot of dreamers coming in, so you really need to dictate the terms. I would tell them I have the money and will buy the car today if the car price is dropped to $x amount. If they don't, then just walk away. Or get it transported from interstate where the prices appear to be more competitive.

I'm waiting for the 2014 to hit showrooms.Good luck on the future purchase.