Dota 2?

[sleptema]

Anyone from here enjoy a casual game of dota2?

I used to play dota on the warcraft 3 FT engine. I wouldn't call myself a veteran, but I have been playing since I was 13 (8 years )

Any others? Should swap gamertags on steam and party up?

[Cowboy1600]

I play now and then. I suck at it. I haven't really got my head around it - When I play PVP games everyone yells at me for being a noob I go Sniper and take the middle lane and make good progress, but apparently there's something else I should be doing....I just don't know what it is.

[sleptema]

I play now and then. I suck at it. I haven't really got my head around it - When I play PVP games everyone yells at me for being a noob I go Sniper and take the middle lane and make good progress, but apparently there's something else I should be doing....I just don't know what it is.

It's really hard to give you direct advice seeing as though I have never seen your game style. But generally mid lane is left for early gankers/roamers - for example pudge, shadow fiend, potm, qop. Basically as soon as mid reaches 6, they should be roaming to take out the opposition carries, if this does not happen, carry gets farm and becomes fat fast. I have been playing for a long time and I still don't take mid lane for the fact that if mid lane fails, the other team gains a huge advantage. Also I rarely play early carries.

Sniper, who is fairly item dependant should take safe lane (bot for radiance, top for dire) with a support who can baby sit you, even a tri lane if the supports are good enough. A good support will ward to stop you being ganked, and pull neutrals, so you can get all the exp and gold from the creeps. Sniper who has debatably the best ranged attack animation, should have no problem getting 4/5 creeps per wave. Basically all you need to do is farm like a chinaman until mid game, and not die - which heavily relies on wards early game (because you so squishy) or until you get shadow blade. I personally like the perma stun build for sniper (very game dependant though, sometimes I will rush deso) which is mask of madness for early attack speed and escapability (sell late game for satanic generally) with abyssal blade (for stun and str gain) and mkb (for attack speed and true strike). Shadow blade is generally a good buy, especially if you are vsing a high damage team.

The other issue you can have is your team. A good team will have a initator/tank, 2-3 support/nukers, 1-2 roaming gankers/nukers and a carry. The team basically needs to be built around the carry to compliment the hero and keep him/her from dying. When each player plays to the heroes strengths and roles correctly, you will completely stomp the enemy. If your team consists of 3 carries, a tank and a nuker with no supports, generally you are going to lose unless the other team makes the fatal mistake of letting you farm for 30 mins, then they are noobs and deserve to be punished. Sniper, who is generally a carry, needs farm, and if you are combating with 2 other people on your team for the farm, you can't get the items you need and will die fast. Or, if you are vsing a team with lots of stuns and nukes, and you haven't got a support to heal/immune you, and you haven't got bkb, no matter how much you farm, you will die. Sniper is supposed to sit behind your team, taking them out from a distance. You need to use your range to your advantage. If you were to have a team to compliment sniper, you would have tanky melee nukers (ogre, sven, omni) so the team is held away from you to give you time to kill and to escape. If you have all range, and you are all together attacking, there may only be 100-200 range between you and your team and you will get caught in the crossfire, as opposed to 600-700 away with a melee team.

Sorry I may have gone overboard but that are some aspects that you need to think about before picking a hero as difficult to play well such as Sniper. Carries are hard to play correctly, and picking Sniper straight from the beginning of the match is just asking for the opposition to counter you hard.

I am more than happy to help you if you need any more advice.

[Dakochan]

I was playing dota alot when i was in uni. I ve tried dota 2 few times, but my laptop was not strong enough, so i got lag in every game. Sighhh should have upgrade my laptop, but i spent more money on my skyline

[KezR33]

I'd recommend against playing Sniper as a new player as he's a very difficult hero to play well. His skills and role are very simple, but a good sniper is all about positioning and evading enemy focus. You want to be at the back/on the side/out of sight plugging away at the enemy team and pulling away the moment they target you. He's basically a glass cannon, huge damage but can't tank anything.

Watch a youtube video or read a guide about how a support hero should be played and try one of those. Tidehunter is a very powerful and easy supp hero to play.

If you still really want to carry try an easier hero like Skeleton King or Dragon Knight.

[sleptema]

If you still really want to carry try an easier hero like Skeleton King or Dragon Knight.

I would go so far as to recommend Riki. 90% of the time in noob games, no one will buy dust or ward - he will chop them all up. Drow is a fairly easy to play carry, Sven is always fun.. Ursa even.

But yes, I would get used to playing a support hero first before trying to carry a team. My favourite supports are dazzle, rubick, warlock, seer. Easy to play supports are lina, lion, puck, zues - all with very high nuke damage.

[Dakochan]

Sorry man but i wouldnt recommend support hero for newbie, since their role are really important in ganking and roaming. If they didnt gank or stun for example the team will lose the battle for sure. I think start with a carry but also try to see how your team move within the map. Try to see and learn how to gank or support. Then you may try support. I agree, use riki as a starter since its really easy to use him, for support i would recommend to use lion. Because even if you were underlevel lion still usefull

[KezR33]

I would go so far as to recommend Riki. 90% of the time in noob games, no one will buy dust or ward - he will chop them all up. Drow is a fairly easy to play carry, Sven is always fun.. Ursa even.

But yes, I would get used to playing a support hero first before trying to carry a team. My favourite supports are dazzle, rubick, warlock, seer. Easy to play supports are lina, lion, puck, zues - all with very high nuke damage.

Puck is one of the hardest supports to play well. I'd argue Zues is more difficult too because most of the time he's required mid and needs to gank frequently.

I still recommend support for newbies so long as they understand what's required from them, which isn't much:

• Harass the enemy in lane
• Don't steal farm from your carry
• Pull if you can (not so important with small camps now)
• Buy wards every time they're available and use them.
• Counter ward.

That's really basic and easy to learn. If I had a Tidehunter who did that, as well as popped his ult in the middle of a team fight there's not much more you could ask for.

[RosieR34]

I played DotA but enjoyed the D-Day Mod the most. Played HoN (Heroes of Newerth) for several years before DotA2 beta was released - tried a few games, disliked it. DotA2 is much slower and GFX don't seem as great as I thought. So I headed back over to HoN. DotA2 has the history and the fan base to make it big - but... I dare say... LoL will be the CoD of the Moba's -

[vspecIInur]

I'm playing dota 2 heaps lately. My game name is SubZero.

I love playing with bane. Easy support. Also love pugna. Can wipe so many out if played correctly.

If I play a carry then usually the rest of the team fails with feeds and not warding nor buying gems against invis

I played dota from W3 more than 10 years ago, then played HoN all the way until Dota 2 was official (didn't play through beta coz got hooked on with HoN) and still playing most days because 1 or 2 game is enough before trying something else and then going back lol

Edited November 6, 2013 by vspecIInur

[sleptema]

I'm playing dota 2 heaps lately. My game name is SubZero.

I love playing with bane. Easy support. Also love pugna. Can wipe so many out if played correctly.

If I play a carry then usually the rest of the team fails with feeds and not warding nor buying gems against invis

I played dota from W3 more than 10 years ago, then played HoN all the way until Dota 2 was official (didn't play through beta coz got hooked on with HoN) and still playing most days because 1 or 2 game is enough before trying something else and then going back lol

I will add you tonight. My gamertag is sleptema

I like the occasional bane, but as I was discussing with a couple mates ealier.. I don't like pugna. In noobish games - yeah decrip, blast and dagon = early game greatness. But overall no stuns or real disables - sure great ms and attack damage, but on the other hand he is squishy, I can't bring myself to like him.

[vspecIInur]

Yea i guess with typical pub games he's quite useful but easy counter as you say. My gamer tag is meant to be Sub-Zero