The Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution 10...

[mcnamg]

i suppose we tend to forget that in japan the skyline is just another car among many others for people to choose. thats why there are so many r32 and r33's coming into aus because of the amount of them on the road. I think i read somewhere that in the first month that the V35 was on sale in japan they moved about 6500 vehicles if you look at that compared to how many lancers are sold in a month over here i am sure that will provide an interesting comparison.

[RB26_S15]

correct me if im wrong... but aint jap cars only allowed to come out with no more then 280hp? if so.... then how are cars like the 2.5lt STi n Evo 10 coming with 300+

[Rezz]

correct me if im wrong... but aint jap cars only allowed to come out with no more then 280hp? if so....

Yeah, you're wrong... it USED to be 280ps. But that whole egntleman agreement between manufacturers about maximum power went out with the 20th century...

[RB26_S15]

so whats the new maximum power?

[Rezz]

hey rezz are you trying to beat evo lee to post because he keeps beating you at pool??

Hahahaha... VERY funny :wassup:

Troy is the original die-cast moulding of the ultimate jaggy bastard...

[Rezz]

so whats the new maximum power?

Whatever the engine can produce while adhereing to the Euro 3/4 emission laws..

[RB26_S15]

sweeeeeeeeet

thanks Rezz

was starting to worry as they say 'you learn something new everyday' and i hadnt so far. lol.

[prae]

Without Mivec it is already the most highly powered 2L engine but I will have to see what the actual power figures of the new EJ20T on a dyno.  With a mild dose of Mivec it will get 350ps from the crank easy but that means they have done nothing much to the engine , I just hope it will be as light as the MR.

Isn't it 4G63T?

The design looks a tad wierd imo, but I guess it'll grow on me as did the 350Z

[Evo_Lee]

Yes always a 4G63

Even without any form of MIVEC she still has plenty more in her.

That photos is probably just some normal 4cyc Mivec in the normal Lancer.

As for the gentlemen's agreement I thought we all know that was thrown out the window ages ago...makers just state that to keep the Govt happy.

[Terreto]

What's the point with the EVO, it just looks like a riced up Lancer to the average joe. How much were they, like 70k or something? ridiculous. Small, ugly and overpriced. Might go fast but so what? It's about as appealing as a high performance Hyundai Excel.

Sorry EVO owners, but for that money Mitsubishi really should give it it's own body and model look, not that of a mass produced budget car runabout.

[Evo_Lee]

You obviously don't know how different the two cars are, apart from the visual aspect...and again Skylines aren't based on a common mass production platform.

[Rezz]

Sorry EVO owners, but for that money Mitsubishi really should give it it's own body and model look, not that of a mass produced budget car runabout.

Bloody hell, EVERYBODY thats had a ride in Evo_Lee's Evo 5 walks away highly impressed (Troy - really they do!)...

You been in one/driven one before mate? I've said it before, Mitsubishi Evo's are the *only* other car I'd think about owning other than a Skyline.

[RB26_S15]

Bloody hell, EVERYBODY thats had a ride in Evo_Lee's Evo 5 walks away highly impressed (Troy - really they do!)...

You been in one/driven one before mate? I've said it before, Mitsubishi Evo's are the *only* other car I'd think about owning other than a Skyline.

i like the 04 WRX STi much better, looks so much better..... but nothin beats the look of a tank GTR

[StuiE]

i suppose we tend to forget that in japan the skyline is just another car among many others for people to choose. thats why there are so many r32 and r33's coming into aus because of the amount of them on the road. I think i read somewhere that in the first month that the V35 was on sale in japan they moved about 6500 vehicles if you look at that compared to how many lancers are sold in a month over here i am sure that will provide an interesting comparison.

Plus there is all the cooking model cars we don't get here (like a RB20E in a R33 2door...how many people here bother importing them?)

I like the look of the specs for the Evo X, the car though... yuck...designed by the guy who was recently sacked? (and responsible for such ugly things as the current Magna, that Colt thing, cooking model Lancers(agreed, the Evo 8 wasn't too bad))

[Evo_Lee]

i like the 04 WRX STi much better, looks so much better..... but nothin beats the look of a tank GTR

The STi package is great but the styling leaves alot to be desired...again Aust gets alot of WRXs and STi...you don't see many around here definitely not in my neck of the woods. But beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

If you have time search for the Super Taikyu Series and you will see alot of nice racing Evos and the most...2 STi in the whole field...then you will see which is better looking even in race trim.

[knore]

Ofcourse the skyline was mass produced evo_lee... what car that u can buy isnt..

But u count the number of lancers that go past on a busy street compared to the number of GTRs or even GTSt skylines.

And we are talking australia here, it is skylines australia

My against for the EVO is simply the fact it looks too similar to a normal lancer, which in no way is a performance car anyway. So u cant say the GTR is just a riced up gtst. The entire range of skylines is performance bred, but lancers;

One side is cheap cars to be mass produced, the other peformance.

And brand new they are fairly expensive.

I beleive for a car to be truely unique, it needs the whole package.. Looks, power, handling, agressive, price, attractive etc etc

Other than that tho, the EVOs are fast!

[T0nyGTSt]

I don't necessarily agree - Lancers are by and large, shitty cheaply made economy boxes for univerisity students and middle aged women... oh and ricers

But Evolutions have a strong racing heritage easily comparable to GT-R's. I wouldn't be spending $75,000 on an EVO but to the people that matter, the EVO will always stand way above a 'normal' Lancer.

T.

[Kutter]

The entire range of skylines is performance bred

entire range??

read up on motorsport history(pre-WRC) and you'll know why the Evolution had to be based on a "mass production" car.

that goes for the GT-R too.....

funny how no one is comparing the WRC Focus rally car to their road-going versions...

[mist]

nicely said Tony

[Evo_Lee]

Looks like everyones has jumped in and answered before I could finish my post...

Ofcourse the skyline was mass produced evo_lee... what car that u can buy isnt..

First you said the Lancer is mass produced and now you tell me you agree the Skyline is too...so what is your point again.

But u count the number of lancers that go past on a busy street compared to the number of GTRs or even GTSt skylines.

And we are talking australia here, it is skylines australia

You just keep counting your Lancers and I will keep counting the Skylines...again what is your point. You can even count GT-Rs and I will count how many Evos there are.

My against for the EVO is simply the fact it looks too similar to a normal lancer, which in no way is a performance car anyway.

So u cant say the GTR is just a riced up gtst. The entire range of skylines is performance bred, but lancers;  

One side is cheap cars to be mass produced, the other peformance.

And brand new they are fairly expensive.  

I wonder who told you the Lancer was a performance car, did the little ricer lancer boy tell you that and you believed him. Why would a normal car need to cost that much if it was the 4G93 GSR then you'll find they are in a similar price markup. What's interesting is how you find every Skyline is performance bred...seriously I wonder where you get your information! Because of the GT-R or because they also come with a Turbo engine...alot of cars come with different engines doesn't make them performance bred.

The GT-R and the Evo are completely different to their family model line up. Both were purposely built for competition. I'd even say the difference is greater between the Evo and Lancers today then the GT-R and Skylines.