lidz Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 How loud are they compared to the V8's? From what I can hear through the TV they sound considerably quieter. V8's were significantly louder, though admittedly they were at full attack mode. Biggest sign was the rb7 doing a couple laps, sound was phenomenal in comparison, could be heard from miles away. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/435485-formula-one-2014/page/42/#findComment-7227782 Share on other sites More sharing options...
89CAL Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Possible glimmer of hope - the f1 app was showing that everyone was only taking the engine to around 12000rpm. Doesnt mean that they werent going to 15000rpm, the app could be wrong. But if it isnt we might get a bit more of a scream out of the v6's yet Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/435485-formula-one-2014/page/42/#findComment-7227954 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PN-Mad Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Why would you take it to 15,000? That's the question. You have 5 motors to last the season. You have a limited fuel delivery. You have a turbo that can be spun up electrically for boost at any revs. You have 8 gears to keep the motor in the torque range. Why bother with 15k, if you don't have to? Not saying I like it, just makes sense not to rev it for the sake of it. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/435485-formula-one-2014/page/42/#findComment-7227979 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattie4270 Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Lets face it,they sound shit!But its the future.Old turbo 80s cars had no rev limit or boost plus had screamer pipes.Now its all used to make electricity,which acts as a huge muffler.Really its amazing how quiet they are for an engine with an exhaust straight out of the turbo.Ive always said that the two cars that actually go through your body is F1 and topfuel,but sad to say F1 no more???Whats the answer?I dont know.Im an electrician and im very impressed with the electric power they have but,mmmmmmm,think the live atmosphere is gone.And its only gunna get worse as they develop electric power more.I suppose on TV it wont be as bad as the racing itself will be good,but im sure crowds will be down in the future as most people that arent hardcore F1 fans only go to hear that beautiful sound of a V8 at 18000rpm with open exhaust,or dare i say the V10s at 20000rpm.BMW actually revved their V10 to 21000rpm on the dyno but the limit to race was 20000rpm then.Whats the answer guys???Times change............... Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/435485-formula-one-2014/page/42/#findComment-7227996 Share on other sites More sharing options...
89CAL Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Yeah well I was just saying they might use it in qually. Thats 3000 more rpm of noise. Im not hating the noise they Make, its just not a special noise like the v8 was Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/435485-formula-one-2014/page/42/#findComment-7227997 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daleo Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Why would you take it to 15,000? That's the question. You have 5 motors to last the season. You have a limited fuel delivery. You have a turbo that can be spun up electrically for boost at any revs. You have 8 gears to keep the motor in the torque range. Why bother with 15k, if you don't have to? Not saying I like it, just makes sense not to rev it for the sake of it. All it take is one team to do it, and beat the rest. Then they'll all do it. These guys ARE racing for sheep stations. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/435485-formula-one-2014/page/42/#findComment-7227998 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MatthewT85 Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Possible glimmer of hope - the f1 app was showing that everyone was only taking the engine to around 12000rpm. Doesnt mean that they werent going to 15000rpm, the app could be wrong. But if it isnt we might get a bit more of a scream out of the v6's yet in the commentary theyve said that they will prob be racing at around 12-12.5k cause they wont make race distance with 15k Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/435485-formula-one-2014/page/42/#findComment-7228003 Share on other sites More sharing options...
89CAL Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Yeah might see more in qually. But nothing is easy to predict Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/435485-formula-one-2014/page/42/#findComment-7228004 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missileman Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Lets face it,they sound shit!But its the future.Old turbo 80s cars had no rev limit or boost plus had screamer pipes.Now its all used to make electricity,which acts as a huge muffler.Really its amazing how quiet they are for an engine with an exhaust straight out of the turbo.Ive always said that the two cars that actually go through your body is F1 and topfuel,but sad to say F1 no more???Whats the answer?I dont know.Im an electrician and im very impressed with the electric power they have but,mmmmmmm,think the live atmosphere is gone.And its only gunna get worse as they develop electric power more.I suppose on TV it wont be as bad as the racing itself will be good,but im sure crowds will be down in the future as most people that arent hardcore F1 fans only go to hear that beautiful sound of a V8 at 18000rpm with open exhaust,or dare i say the V10s at 20000rpm.BMW actually revved their V10 to 21000rpm on the dyno but the limit to race was 20000rpm then.Whats the answer guys???Times change............... I've raced RC, nitro and electric, NiCad, NiMH, Lipo, until you experience max torque from zero rpm, its difficult to comprehend the power of electrons. I actually wouldn't mind seeing an all electric version of F1. Though I would expect the next step to be hydrogen/ electric hybrid. Don't get me wrong, if someone offered me a Tesla, mac650, or an R35 I would be like tesla who... Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/435485-formula-one-2014/page/42/#findComment-7228014 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chus13 Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 V8's were significantly louder, though admittedly they were at full attack mode. Biggest sign was the rb7 doing a couple laps, sound was phenomenal in comparison, could be heard from miles away. I should have elaborated a bit more. I meant the super cars not the old F1's. The old V8 F1 doing the speed comparison gave me goosebumps when it got on the noise after listening to this v6 garbage all day. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/435485-formula-one-2014/page/42/#findComment-7228015 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chus13 Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 I've raced RC, nitro and electric, NiCad, NiMH, Lipo, until you experience max torque from zero rpm, its difficult to comprehend the power of electrons. I actually wouldn't mind seeing an all electric version of F1. Though I would expect the next step to be hydrogen/ electric hybrid. Don't get me wrong, if someone offered me a Tesla, mac650, or an R35 I would be like tesla who... You have heard of Formula E right? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/435485-formula-one-2014/page/42/#findComment-7228016 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattie4270 Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Well whats the answer guys?Electricity rules and is only going to get more powerful Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/435485-formula-one-2014/page/42/#findComment-7228020 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missileman Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 yes but... Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/435485-formula-one-2014/page/42/#findComment-7228021 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattie4270 Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 We need noise,im lost for words Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/435485-formula-one-2014/page/42/#findComment-7228039 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sh@un Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Now all they need to do is abolish this bullshit economy initiative and go back to V10's There won't ever be such a thing as an n/a V10 GP car again Not never Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/435485-formula-one-2014/page/42/#findComment-7228078 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweety bird Posted March 14, 2014 Author Share Posted March 14, 2014 Possible glimmer of hope - the f1 app was showing that everyone was only taking the engine to around 12000rpm. Doesnt mean that they werent going to 15000rpm, the app could be wrong. But if it isnt we might get a bit more of a scream out of the v6's yet Orly? Interesting.. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/435485-formula-one-2014/page/42/#findComment-7228079 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweety bird Posted March 14, 2014 Author Share Posted March 14, 2014 There won't ever be such a thing as an n/a V10 GP car again Not never Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/435485-formula-one-2014/page/42/#findComment-7228080 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PN-Mad Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 All it take is one team to do it, and beat the rest. Then they'll all do it. These guys ARE racing for sheep stations. Yeah, sure. But the way I look at it, the way the fuel is setup, you don't need the rpm to make the speed. You could use 15,000 to stretch a gear between corners, but really, all the torque and acceleration of these motors will be based in lower rpm. I suspect that's why they got an extra cog. We only got use to stratospheric rpm because of the NA motors. I have the answer. Too many cars sitting in sheds. Make a category for ex f1 cars, that gentleman drivers can come and complete in. De tune the engines a bit so they can last 1/2 a season or whatever. Give them a control tyre, and replace the porsche cup with them!!! Year catagories to keep a bit of parity. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/435485-formula-one-2014/page/42/#findComment-7228131 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lidz Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 I should have elaborated a bit more. I meant the super cars not the old F1's. The old V8 F1 doing the speed comparison gave me goosebumps when it got on the noise after listening to this v6 garbage all day. That's alright, that's what I was referring to as well! The supercar's sounded brilliant compared to the muted burps & farts from the f1's, the rb7 was on another level again. So in summery, sad panda. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/435485-formula-one-2014/page/42/#findComment-7228141 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sh@un Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 sorry little doodle Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/435485-formula-one-2014/page/42/#findComment-7228144 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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