tweety bird Posted October 25, 2014 Author Share Posted October 25, 2014 Nico's workout. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/435485-formula-one-2014/page/128/#findComment-7414829 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweety bird Posted October 25, 2014 Author Share Posted October 25, 2014 Nico's workout. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/435485-formula-one-2014/page/128/#findComment-7414830 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweety bird Posted October 25, 2014 Author Share Posted October 25, 2014 What Closed cockpits might look like. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/435485-formula-one-2014/page/128/#findComment-7414833 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Rossi must be feeling a little bit cheated not getting the call up to Marussia for Austin Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/435485-formula-one-2014/page/128/#findComment-7414941 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctjet Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 What Closed cockpits might look like. that looks awful Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/435485-formula-one-2014/page/128/#findComment-7415111 Share on other sites More sharing options...
djr81 Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 No Caterham, no Marussia for the American GP's. Maybe someone will finally get the hint that teams need actual money to keep going. Sure as hell Bernie doesn't need any more and no one cares for whichever private equity muppets are gouging it all this week. Its not just the minnows, the midfield teams are bleeding money too. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/435485-formula-one-2014/page/128/#findComment-7415308 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweety bird Posted October 27, 2014 Author Share Posted October 27, 2014 Yep. Also http://www.racecar-engineering.com/articles/how-caterham-f1-collapsed/ An interesting read on the collapse of Caterham. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/435485-formula-one-2014/page/128/#findComment-7415309 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Just need Sauber to struggle and..... Bernie still wont care. His daughters need more mansions and cosmetic surgery....plus he has some more people to pay off no doubt Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/435485-formula-one-2014/page/128/#findComment-7415608 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Yep. Also http://www.racecar-engineering.com/articles/how-caterham-f1-collapsed/ An interesting read on the collapse of Caterham. wow...what a joke. The behavior of millionaires Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/435485-formula-one-2014/page/128/#findComment-7415611 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweety bird Posted October 27, 2014 Author Share Posted October 27, 2014 http://m.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/116512/marussia-goes-into-administration It's confirmed marussia has gone it to administration. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/435485-formula-one-2014/page/128/#findComment-7415658 Share on other sites More sharing options...
djr81 Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 This was in Autosport today: A letter written to Todt by Caterham, Marussia, Sauber and Force India, a copy of which has been seen by AUTOSPORT, laid bare just how expensive F1 was. It provided an example of what a midfield team was now spending - excluding driver salaries, building leases, hospitality, marketing and media. Bigger teams are spending more, in some cases much more, while F1's minnows Caterham and Marussia have been trying to get by on much less. The breakdown for an average team went as follows: Hybrid power system $28 millionGearbox and hydraulics $5 millionFuel and lubricants $1.5 millionTyres $1.8 millionElectronics $1.95 millionIT $3 millionSalaries $20 millionTravel and trackside facilities $12 millionChassis production/manufacturing $20 millionWindtunnel/CFD facilities $18.5 millionUtilities and factory maintenance $2 millionHR and professional services $1.5 millionFreight $5 millionTOTAL $120.25 million Of course such high expenditure only becomes an issue if income does not cover it, which is where much of the current problem has materialised. Income from F1's commercial rights is only around $55million - roughly half of the cost of competing - for a midfield team like Sauber or Toro Rosso. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/435485-formula-one-2014/page/128/#findComment-7416342 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweety bird Posted October 29, 2014 Author Share Posted October 29, 2014 This was in Autosport today: A letter written to Todt by Caterham, Marussia, Sauber and Force India, a copy of which has been seen by AUTOSPORT, laid bare just how expensive F1 was. It provided an example of what a midfield team was now spending - excluding driver salaries, building leases, hospitality, marketing and media. Bigger teams are spending more, in some cases much more, while F1's minnows Caterham and Marussia have been trying to get by on much less. The breakdown for an average team went as follows: Hybrid power system $28 million Gearbox and hydraulics $5 million Fuel and lubricants $1.5 million Tyres $1.8 million Electronics $1.95 million IT $3 million Salaries $20 million Travel and trackside facilities $12 million Chassis production/manufacturing $20 million Windtunnel/CFD facilities $18.5 million Utilities and factory maintenance $2 million HR and professional services $1.5 million Freight $5 million TOTAL $120.25 million Of course such high expenditure only becomes an issue if income does not cover it, which is where much of the current problem has materialised. Income from F1's commercial rights is only around $55million - roughly half of the cost of competing - for a midfield team like Sauber or Toro Rosso. Fark.. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/435485-formula-one-2014/page/128/#findComment-7416374 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 Who's lucky enough to have a Dad at CVC? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/435485-formula-one-2014/page/128/#findComment-7416515 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sh@un Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 So is anyone genuinely surprised that competing in the world's premier tarmac racing class is an expensive undertaking? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/435485-formula-one-2014/page/128/#findComment-7417249 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 5 million in freight? DHL are raping teams at higher than normal commercial rates. They give money to FOM and get it all back and some by overcharging the contracted teams. The wind tunnel cost is a joke too. Just let them go testing with a 3rd driver at race meets and on 4 occassions through the season. Then limit windtunnel testing 8ng to say 100hrs Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/435485-formula-one-2014/page/128/#findComment-7417309 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 Oh...and give teams 5 aero changes a season...and cut downforce and give them more tyre Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/435485-formula-one-2014/page/128/#findComment-7417310 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweety bird Posted October 30, 2014 Author Share Posted October 30, 2014 http://www.marussiaf1team.com/news/1044/ Update on jules. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/435485-formula-one-2014/page/128/#findComment-7417453 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweety bird Posted October 30, 2014 Author Share Posted October 30, 2014 Um.. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/435485-formula-one-2014/page/128/#findComment-7417455 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gts-t Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 I wish Alonso would hurry up and say where he was going, all this I have a plan shit is annoying Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/435485-formula-one-2014/page/128/#findComment-7417458 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweety bird Posted October 30, 2014 Author Share Posted October 30, 2014 Aparently he wants to stay at Ferrari now. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/435485-formula-one-2014/page/128/#findComment-7417462 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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