Formula One 2014

[tweety bird]

Williams!!!

[mad082]

Great work by Williams to get a front row lockout. Going to make for an interesting race. We'll get to see how the mercs handle traffic (hamo) when they are actually racing for position and not just having the traffic move out of the way. We'd sometimes see Vettel really struggle in traffic and only blaze away once in open air. Wonder if the mercs will do the same.

[89CAL]

Didn't Vettel come from 16th to a podium/win last year sometime? It was a superior car but

[wolverine]

ffs Ch10 missing all the pit stops

[wolverine]

Williams successfully undercutting both their drivers tonight with a lap too late pit strategies?!?!?!

[89CAL]

ffs Ch10 missing all the pit stops

Yeah that was fairly shit.

"And now we see the drivers heading in for their first pitstops, I wonder if........."

Chanel 10 logic:

"I think its a good time to grab our first commercial break"

*conversation may not be 100% accurate. I know how much people like accuracy

That race had the potential to be great, then It was rather boring. Hope these Mercedes start breaking soon. A few issues are starting to appear. Imagine if they lost the Drivers championship now. How would you feel being Rosberg/Hamilton to have an unbeatable car for half the year and still lose

Edited June 22, 2014 by 89CAL

[MatthewT85]

i think that would be amazing...

yeah what annoyed me is that williams decided to aim for 3/4 and not bother covering the mercs... pretty much let them win and manage their cars reliabilty easier...

[89CAL]

Well the Williams are harder on types so they probably tried to stretch it out to improve their later pace/grip

Funny how there was no replay of what actually happened when Kyvyat's (how on earth do you spell it) suspension let go

Kimi having a very boring year in the Ferrari so far. In the back of my mind I thought this might happen but really hoped it wouldn't

[JAS-25T]

wow horner gave renault a blasting in one of his post race interviews...

[hrd-hr30]

Kimi used to be hugely fast, and even looked the goods in the Lotus. But its beginning to look like he only went to Ferrari to retire and really isn't terribly interested. Will be huge lols if they dump him again mid-conract!

Couldn't agree more about Williams whole approach to racing there. That was shit. I know they needs a good points haul, but someone needs to tell them you get more points for 1st or 2nd than 3rd & 4th... The team just refused to take the race to Mercedes. Dissapointing, and probably pretty stupid, because their car was obviously very well suited to that track. They may not get another chance for a win until Monza. They had the pace to match Mercedes, their tyres didn't grain any more than Mercedes. They just didn't bother trying to race them from the pit wall. Two thumbs down Williams. If you don't race to win, what's the point?

Edited June 22, 2014 by hrd-hr30

[djr81]

From the Beebeecee:

Mercedes, realising they were able to look after their tyres better than Williams, brought Rosberg in on lap 11.

Had Williams responded with Massa on the next lap, the Brazilian would almost certainly have been able to rejoin still ahead but Williams were worried the two remaining stints would then be too long for their car.

"From all the information we had at that point and everything we knew at that time and now know, I don't think we could have got to the end of the race by doing it," head of vehicle performance Smedley said.

"Even the strategy we did, we were managing tyres and tyre wear, trying to keep wheelspin and lateral acceleration down in certain parts of the corner with driving styles, with electronic settings.

"So it would have been fairly gung-ho and brave to have gone for it on that lap, and you look like a bit of an idiot if you finish your tyres with five or six laps to go and cars come streaming past you."

It did look all a bit weak kneed but there again the constructors is tight:

1 Mercedes 301

2 Red Bull Racing-Renault 143

3 Ferrari 98

4 Force India-Mercedes 87

5 Williams-Mercedes 85

6 McLaren-Mercedes 72

7 STR-Renault 12

8 Lotus-Renault 8

9 Marussia-Ferrari 2

10 Sauber-Ferrari 0

11 Caterham-Renault 0

What chance Ferrari will dump Kimi for Kyvet - does Alonso get to pick his team mate again and say no like he allegedly did to Hulkenberg?

Edited June 22, 2014 by djr81

[dezz]

How the f*k are RBR 2nd in the championship with all Vettel's DNF's

[hrd-hr30]

because Mark's not their other driver

uh-oh...

[djr81]

How the f*k are RBR 2nd in the championship with all Vettel's DNF's

Still trying to figure out how TR has so few points given the are often as not quicker than the grown ups in the other team.

Also Horner has tipped a bucket on Renault. Next year Infiniti RedBull Honda??????? Apparently not.

"We need to work together as partners. There will not be another engine in the back of the car next year, but we want to be competitive and we want to run at the front," said Horner.

"Something needs to happen because whatever's being done there at the moment isn't working.

"It's not our business, it's not our responsibility. We're the end user and it's just frustrating that it's not where it needs to be at the moment," added the Briton.

[89CAL]

Kimi used to be hugely fast, and even looked the goods in the Lotus. But its beginning to look like he only went to Ferrari to retire and really isn't terribly interested. Will be huge lols if they dump him again mid-conract!

Couldn't agree more about Williams whole approach to racing there. That was shit. I know they needs a good points haul, but someone needs to tell them you get more points for 1st or 2nd than 3rd & 4th... The team just refused to take the race to Mercedes. Dissapointing, and probably pretty stupid, because their car was obviously very well suited to that track. They may not get another chance for a win until Monza. They had the pace to match Mercedes, their tyres didn't grain any more than Mercedes. They just didn't bother trying to race them from the pit wall. Two thumbs down Williams. If you don't race to win, what's the point?

I think thats not really true. The Ferrari looks pretty horrible at times. Alonso struggles with it sometime and Kimi is probably in the same boat as Vettel. Vettel is not all of a sudden just a crap driver. He is struggling a bit in the car, where as Dan is doing much better.

I think Kimi's intentions at Ferrari were to be fighting at the front, Lotus was never going to have a good car this year. But its not turning out right because I think the car (and the engine to a degree) arent as strong as some people thought, including Ferrari themselves.

Last year when Kimi won the Aus GP, I watched every driver going around turns 3 and 4 and pretty much every one of them was sliding the car around. Kimi was unbelievebly good around those 2 corners, was so planted and nice around the corner.

This year the thing was sliding all over the place. I think its just 50% the car (new regulations alot to do with that) and 50% not suiting his driving style

I am a pretty big fan of his though lol. But still I don't think he is the kinda guy that would be in Formula 1, JUST to be there

[warps]

I am a pretty big fan of his though lol. But still I don't think he is the kinda guy that would be in Formula 1, JUST to be there

He isn't

He's there for the bishes

Lol at Harry's Weber comment. Nailed it!!

[tweety bird]

The walk of bishes was the best so far this year.

[89CAL]

The walk of bishes was the best so far this year.

It's pretty funny though, have all these girls lined up clapping just to have 3 drivers and a team member walk straight past. I don't get it, but I'm sure not complaining lol

[hrd-hr30]

I am (well, was I guess) a big Kimi fan. He just isn't doing the job at all this year in the Ferrari. Rationalise it any way you want, but after 8 races his best result is 7th and avg finishing position is 9.5 - just in the top 10! Alonso on the other hand, has been on the podium once and has a string of 4ths. How bad can the car be?

Kimi is a woeful 12th in the WDC only ahead of shitboxes like Lotus, Sauber and co. Not exactly impressive.

Last year everyone was comparing him to Alonso...All I can say is that Lotus must have been a good thing!

Vettel, as you point out, is clearly struggling this year too, but his stuggling is a position or two behind his team-mate when his car doesn't have obvious problems. It's not at all comparable to Kimi's (lack of) performaces.

Edited June 23, 2014 by hrd-hr30

[tweety bird]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCRdkVrFXww&index=8&list=UUrHLOGEVqclYcMn7rlYg-VA

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