Matty 31 Posted June 15, 2004 Share Posted June 15, 2004 Hey guys need some opinions. eventually in my R31 i want to run an RB20DET on straight gas, but i cant afford the new motor at the moment (as ive just spent 800 bucks gettin the head re-machined after a blown gasket - ouch). I am considering having the standard RB30 built for straight gas operation (ie pissing off the whole fuel system, gettin a bigger tank, removing the fuel tank and puttin the gas tank under the boot floor). Any ideas if this has been done yet, and if it is a good idea to do. I know i have to get brass valves and shit like that so it doesnt stuff up majorly, but im tryin to get rough pricing ideas cos no-one in adelaide wants to take me too seriously. i mean, they're more interested in poxy s13 silvias than a sleeper lookin 6 that could have a stomper of a motor underneath it (i apologise to any decent silvia owners). Anyone who can help let me know Matty T Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/43588-rb30-is-it-worth-building-performance-but-running-straight-lpg/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
666DAN Posted June 15, 2004 Share Posted June 15, 2004 Hmmm got a magazine at home with a guy running LPG in his RB20DET....it is well suited to boost...was putting out some decent power. I'll try and find it. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/43588-rb30-is-it-worth-building-performance-but-running-straight-lpg/#findComment-890947 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abo Bob Posted June 15, 2004 Share Posted June 15, 2004 LPG has a higher octane rating than petrol from my distant past memory. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/43588-rb30-is-it-worth-building-performance-but-running-straight-lpg/#findComment-890961 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKY031 Posted June 16, 2004 Share Posted June 16, 2004 If you're going to do it, it's worth doing a bit of research. If it's done properly, you'll be very happy with the result, if it's done on the cheap, things will start to fall apart. Check out gas research kits. The most important thing in a gas only system is proper lubrication. As far as octane goes, LPG is around 110 octane. Regular petrol 92(ish) octane and PULP 95(ish) octane Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/43588-rb30-is-it-worth-building-performance-but-running-straight-lpg/#findComment-891103 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abo Bob Posted June 16, 2004 Share Posted June 16, 2004 I got something right ! Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/43588-rb30-is-it-worth-building-performance-but-running-straight-lpg/#findComment-891130 Share on other sites More sharing options...
666DAN Posted June 16, 2004 Share Posted June 16, 2004 yeah it was a gas research kit on his car Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/43588-rb30-is-it-worth-building-performance-but-running-straight-lpg/#findComment-892696 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubes Posted June 17, 2004 Share Posted June 17, 2004 I had a VS V8 Commodore that towards the end was getting real heavy on petrol due to mods. I looked in to supercharging it as cams in the ol' 5ltr really do stuff all and use too much petrol. I looked in to an EFI gas setup that used LPG Gas injectors. I also looked in to the gas research carbs which was cheaper but didn't yield as good results as the gas injectors. The RB30 with a high comp 9.5:1, the twin cam head, a nice GT30 turbo would get it moving very very nicely on gas. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/43588-rb30-is-it-worth-building-performance-but-running-straight-lpg/#findComment-894728 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matty 31 Posted June 19, 2004 Author Share Posted June 19, 2004 Cheers for the info so far guys...........Its good to know that i can get some people out there who take me seriously. Its almost the way to go now, my biggest thing will be is if i have to do anything to the ECU or not Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/43588-rb30-is-it-worth-building-performance-but-running-straight-lpg/#findComment-897725 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NFS Posted July 7, 2004 Share Posted July 7, 2004 No you won't have to do anything to the ECU. Usually you have seperate gas computers and the switch that will switch from Gas to Petrol (or the other way around), but that's about all the electronics involved in a gas system. I've probably missed something out so someone correct me. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/43588-rb30-is-it-worth-building-performance-but-running-straight-lpg/#findComment-924019 Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuiE Posted July 7, 2004 Share Posted July 7, 2004 AFAIK a dedicated gas system is better that dual fuel, since there is a compromise on both fuels making less power etc. Saw a RX3 or something in a mag that ran LPG, apparantly the exhaust ran really hot and it was always buring holes in it...or do rotors have a hotter exhaust temp anyway? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/43588-rb30-is-it-worth-building-performance-but-running-straight-lpg/#findComment-924279 Share on other sites More sharing options...
slip Posted July 8, 2004 Share Posted July 8, 2004 a lot of work, and for what gain? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/43588-rb30-is-it-worth-building-performance-but-running-straight-lpg/#findComment-926376 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NFS Posted July 10, 2004 Share Posted July 10, 2004 a lot of work, and for what gain? There isn't too much work, i've helped do a LPG conversion and it isn't very hard at all just gotta get a mechanic or something to fit the tank and lines properly. Also gains would be cheaper gas prices!! also the EPA say that any car running straight gas is 100% under emissions, so there will be less trouble from them! Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/43588-rb30-is-it-worth-building-performance-but-running-straight-lpg/#findComment-928277 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bax Posted July 11, 2004 Share Posted July 11, 2004 Theres a guy on CalaisTurbo running 10's in his vlct with Gas. Can find you a link if you want to talk to him? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/43588-rb30-is-it-worth-building-performance-but-running-straight-lpg/#findComment-929227 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matty 31 Posted July 13, 2004 Author Share Posted July 13, 2004 Bax, that would be great to speak to him. If u've got the link either post it or e-mail me with it Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/43588-rb30-is-it-worth-building-performance-but-running-straight-lpg/#findComment-932165 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bl4cK32 Posted July 13, 2004 Share Posted July 13, 2004 Go see Andrew in the Engine recondition section at City Dismantlers. He built Joels and my motors at the same time. He does an excellent job Top quality workshop too. He knows his shit....as they say Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/43588-rb30-is-it-worth-building-performance-but-running-straight-lpg/#findComment-932241 Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnricoPalazzo Posted July 13, 2004 Share Posted July 13, 2004 the gas research systems are alot different to ur average one. And alot more expensive aswell. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/43588-rb30-is-it-worth-building-performance-but-running-straight-lpg/#findComment-932266 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubes Posted July 13, 2004 Share Posted July 13, 2004 Darren, The only problem with the quality of the overall job is the workmanship from the bodgy bugger who dropped your motor in. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/43588-rb30-is-it-worth-building-performance-but-running-straight-lpg/#findComment-932276 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bl4cK32 Posted July 13, 2004 Share Posted July 13, 2004 Hey i only put back in there what was there to start with but yer....lol Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/43588-rb30-is-it-worth-building-performance-but-running-straight-lpg/#findComment-932279 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubes Posted July 13, 2004 Share Posted July 13, 2004 hahah Shall I post another then??? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/43588-rb30-is-it-worth-building-performance-but-running-straight-lpg/#findComment-932287 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubes Posted July 13, 2004 Share Posted July 13, 2004 What tha hell.. Whats wrong with this pic.. I think its sitting this way to compensate for the extra torque of the new motor Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/43588-rb30-is-it-worth-building-performance-but-running-straight-lpg/#findComment-932290 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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