which FM cooler for r34 gtt?

[hoo@h]

I am looking at the hks stype kit or the blitz v spec lm

they are around similar price, just want to know if any1 have used either one of them. which one is better, performance, mounting neatness and how much modification required for each kit ( eg. front bumper cutting. etc etc)

[Sydneykid]

Hi hoo@h, if you are looking for up to 300 rwkw then a standard R33/34 GTR intercooler is very hard to beat.

[hoo@h]

to put a gtr intercooler in gtt. That would mean I will need custom made piping to go with it. it that right?

I am sort of prefer having a intercooler kit that came with the bolt on pipe,just so there's no welding between bent pipes and stuff.

[Sydneykid]

  hoo@h said:

to put a gtr intercooler in gtt. That would mean I will need custom made piping to go with it. it that right?  

I am sort of prefer having a intercooler kit that came with the bolt on pipe,just so there's no welding between bent pipes and stuff.

Sorry I don't understand, you can buy an intercooler pipework kit for an aftermarket intercooler but you can't buy one for a GTR intercooler that goes in the same place? :confused:

[ed]

I think it's a bit cheaper to go GTR way.

$600+ for GTR cooler?

$500+ for piping to be made up.?

$1100 all up.

[Maxx]

the GTR cooler is pretty light weight too. Don't really need to go for those HKS/ blitz one unless u got extra money left in yr pocket.

u might able to do it under $1000 if u are lucky.

[franks]

dont be a tight ass with this stuff, the jap kit is the only way to go.

the amount of running around you'd need to do and then having to leave the car with the fabricator to plumb your pipework - a person you dont know from a bar of soap? have they even done a piping kit for a skyline before? do they have the mandrel bends already done? do they have the "lip" on the end of the pipes so that the hose clamps dont blow off?

sure you could save yourself a couple of hundred bucks but is it really worth the effort? and what if the fabrication doesnt fit quite right and starts rubbing on engine or structual components? are you really saving yourself that much money up front? and how about resale value?

i bought my near new HKS TypeS interooler kit for my GTT nearly 2 years ago at $1500. heres the pics to my install http://www.pbase.com/franks/07dec02_fmic_install it was done in half a day. everything fit like a glove - like it should.

[rb25]

I bought the type s kit new from nengun in japan for about 1320 delivered and taxed. Although mine is an r33 im sure fitting and r34 kit is much the same. It was really easy, the only hard bit was cutting the hole in the guard and the bar cutting but if you have the right tools its an easy job.

[franks]

tsk tsk cutting holes compromises structual rigidity and is therefore defectable!

maybe mine wasn't a type S, mine plumb back to the original sidemount pipes from under the guard...

[Trust33]

ebay have r33 kits by a japanese company complete (d2mpower) or somthing like that for something like $800 shipped to your door.

[rb25]

  franks said:

tsk tsk cutting holes compromises structual rigidity and is therefore defectable!  

maybe mine wasn't a type S, mine plumb back to the original sidemount pipes from under the guard...

lucky i know lots of engineers that like beer.

[Sydneykid]

  franks said:

don’t be a tight ass with this stuff, the jap kit is the only way to go.

Ohh give me a break! That's simply not true. I bought a Jap kit and there is no way it could have been fitted by someone without a hole saw, a nibbler and by buying several "extra parts". Apparently "my model" had the power steering cooler in a different location than the model the kit was designed to fit. Despite the fact that it quite plainly said in the brochure that it fitted "my model". Plus I wanted to run the standard airbox, but there is no way the pipework could be used with the standard airbox in place. :confused:

So, ever since, I have made up my own pipework, that way I get it the way I want it, in the size that I want, made in the material I want. Plus I prefer the 120 degree bend at the throttle body style and I have yet to fit a Japanese kit that does that. I buy the necessary bends, mark them up and then take it to an aluminium welder for welding up. They also have a lipper for pipe ends, it's not a very expensive bit of gear nor are they unique these days.

As for......

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tsk tsk  cutting holes compromises structural rigidity and is therefore defectable!

If you have a GTST or GTT and stick to the (same model) GTR pipework holes stamped in the panels this is simply not true. That is why they are stamped, it is recognised as being a non-structural area and has been designed that way by Nissan. Otherwise the equivalent GTR would be compromised structurally. :idea:

Doing it yourself is not for everyone, but neither is buying a "kit".

[franks]

will a kit-kat suffice???

why stop at doing the piping! you may aswell chop up a truck core and use that as a core! save ya a shitload too then!!!

my FMIC kit plumbs back to the original pipes under the guard, it is l337!!! im sure for 90% of readers of this thread the stock piping from the turbo and to the inlet manifold will suffice.

seriously though, point taken - i think your last line sums it up best. but there's no way your engine bay looks ANYTHING remotely close to mine or hoo@h's. yours would be far from standard....and as for your predicament with your "kit"...shrug...maybe it was put in the wrong box

[hoo@h]

Thanx for all the replay. I think I like franks hks intercooler kit the best so far.

Yeah, personally I think it's worth spending that extra few hundred dollars to get a kit that will fit straight into the GTT pipe work, so no extra cutting or custom constrcution require, which make it neater under the bonnet.

I am not looking for massive power upgrade just something that will improve from the stock intercooler.

one question to franks. Did you get the car dynoed after the FMIC installed? did it improve the perfoamance down low to mid range or mainly on the top end?

n what's the hks kit you got? n where from? s-type or r-type?

[Sydneykid]

  hoo@h said:

I am not looking for massive power upgrade just something that will improve from the stock intercooler.

Power shmower! The point of the shorter pipework is to reduce the amount of air in the inlet system at any point in time. This improves the response, the more air in the system the more doughey the engine feels.

You really need to read the thread on "Intercooler Matching".

[ed]

Another option is Trust/ARC replacement cooler that is thicker than the factory one and flows better.

[hoo@h]

ok. been searching around the forum about intercooler for gtt n there's tons of stuff about it which is awsome.

now, if I am thinging of keeping the R34 factory turbo (for a WHILE at least) but I would like to increase the boost a bit say to .8 or .9 bar max (what's factory standard boost on R34? something like .5?), whould the stock intercooler handle the boost level without streesing out the turbo and engine or a aftermarket intercooler is recommanded. the summer temp. in brissy gets pretty hot these days....