Gt Or Gtr?

[rated3]

I'm a red P-plater going for my green's in May, and recently I have been looking for a Nissan Skyline R34. Now I have found a few good ones, one going for $14,500, another that is going for $12,500 and another which is going for $11,000 but the thing is I don't know if I should wait it out and go for the GTR when I have my fulls in a few years, of course saved up some more money and so on.

Also I'm about to start my Uni course and currently working casually whilst driving a Toyota Camry Altise 2010 model. Besides Isn't the insurance pretty high for these cars?

[Sinista32]

Stick with the Camry

Wait 5 to 10yrs if you want an R34 GTR that badly.

The initial Price, maintenance and insurance I don't think you will be able to afford one until full-time employed for a few years.

and you should be able to get an R34GT for around $8k.

Stick with the Camry !

[Hadouken]

Sell Camry buy pulsar.

/thread

[GTR-N1]

I don't know what you're really trying to develop in your driving satisfaction.

Why not do an Advanced Driving Course #1 in your FWD Camry?

Then do #2 in a RWD whether it be yours or on loan.

Then #3 in a WRX EVO GTR?

[djvoodoo]

I'm a red P-plater going for my green's in May, and recently I have been looking for a Nissan Skyline R34. Now I have found a few good ones, one going for $14,500, another that is going for $12,500 and another which is going for $11,000 but the thing is I don't know if I should wait it out and go for the GTR when I have my fulls in a few years, of course saved up some more money and so on.

Also I'm about to start my Uni course and currently working casually whilst driving a Toyota Camry Altise 2010 model. Besides Isn't the insurance pretty high for these cars?

To put simply. you can't afford it.

I've never met someone fresh out of Uni that earns enough money to maintain their lifestyle (including rent, food, clothing, bills, clubbing, socialising etc etc) and still afford an R34 GTR (even if you manage to save that amount over the next 3 years)

The average wage out of Uni is around 40-50K a year. That's the price of the GTR just to purchase!!

Unless you are an ace laywer or stock broker straight out of study (or are using mummy and daddy's money), stick with the Camry and buy an R34 GTT, mod it with around 220rwkw and have some fun going to track days etc.

[rated3]

Thanks for the replies though my mistake, I meant to say I would either buy the R34GT for now or wait it out until I get my fulls, settle down after uni, get a job etc and eventually buy the GTR.

[niZmO_Man]

settle down after uni, get a job etc and eventually buy the GTR.

That's a 5-year plan. Save as much as you can until you graduate. Then work your way up from a turbo to a GT-R. By that time, you'll probably start looking at property so priorities will change. GLHF

[Cowboy1600]

Buy a shitter (or stick with kelvinator) and spend the rest on piss and partying. f**k saving while at uni. You're only young once, have fun and spend up while doing so. You'll have plenty of time to poor everything you earn into bills and debts and shit after uni. For now just enjoy your youth while you still have it.

[533 RYC]

^ +1 100% agree. Get out there, party hard & bang everything you can while your young (I know I would if I could turn back the clock)!

Worry about the GTR when you settle right down or 100% financially stable. You'll have more fun with it then!

[Cowboy1600]

And yes, it should have been "pour".

[Leroy Peterson]

Sell Camry buy pulsar.

/thread

have my babies.

[BakemonoRicer]

Buy a Silvia....

You will learn a lot about driving it being a RWD car. They are fairly zippy for a p plater car, cheap to run and are easy to modify.

Then you will be well prepared to make your transition to a GTR, or if you prefer, a turbo Silvia.

[warps]

Lol at the silvia

As others have hinted, keep the camry, party at Uni, then start saving like crazy when you get a job.

Once you have saved enough to buy a GTR for cash, use the money to buy property instead. If you're still wanting the driving fix, get a cheap track car and fang the crap out of it at track days, autocrosses etc. Nothing you do on the streets can compare to all out racing / rallying. Don't waste big $$ on a high performance street car when you can't access more than 20% of its performance on the road. Even a cheap / moderately powered track car (Silvia, MX5, Civic etc) will put a much bigger smile on your dial than accelerating to 60 in 2 seconds from traffic lights in your mega dollar street cruiser.

If you manage to sort out your finances and can afford to drop big $$ onto a street car, by all means do so, but don't make that a high priority.

[niZmO_Man]

Too much logic in this thread.

Sell your Camry and buy an R31. They cost $500-$2,000, parts can be had for $free - $100. Cheap to insure, torquey 3L engine, convert to manual if auto for $500, women love them. Lots of learning so you save money in the long run. Once you're off your P's, VL turbo kit, easy peasy

[AMR33]

niZmO_Man and warps are on the money, Combine the two and you get R31 track car. Cheap, fun, fast enough.

On a more serious and grown up note, dont spend your uni days partying and boozing up. Once you start failing units and end up incurring a bigger HECS debt than you planned, then your GTR and other plans will be pushed back. Get an R31 for track and keep the camry as a daily,

[niZmO_Man]

If you get a highish maintenance car, you'll spend more time working and less time studying, not what you want. Unless you're rich/have cashed up parents giving you money, you'll have a bad time.

If you really want a sports car, there are plenty of N/A options out there, aus delivered ones with lower insurance premiums.

[BigWillieStyles]

I disagree with all of the above. I found my mid-20s to be the best time to afford a sports cars. In your thirties, you may have a family, a mortgage or other commitments and it makes ownership of a decent sports coupe difficult to justify.

I had an FD rx7 as a car for my first job out of Uni. I have never owned a GTR, but I cant imagine it being any more expensive to maintain as long as you get a clean example. Insurance is always going to be expensive but if you shop around it can work out.

I would aim to purchase the best you can afford with the money you have.

[Cowboy1600]

I disagree with all of the above. I found my mid-20s to be the best time to afford a sports cars. In your thirties, you may have a family, a mortgage or other commitments and it makes ownership of a decent sports coupe difficult to justify.

I had an FD rx7 as a car for my first job out of Uni. I have never owned a GTR, but I cant imagine it being any more expensive to maintain as long as you get a clean example. Insurance is always going to be expensive but if you shop around it can work out.

I would aim to purchase the best you can afford with the money you have.

Well, to provide some contrast, I didn't have the cash to maintain a decent car while I was at uni, so I spend most of it on Hungry Jacks and Passion Pop. I had a fvcking blast doing it, too.

Now I'm in my mid 30s I have my family and the resources to look after them but also to buy some toys such as my Stag and my CBR1000. I also have the means to look after them all properly.

As I get older and my bones start to creak and I find my "free" time split between work and family, I am realising just how true the old adage of "youth is wasted on the young" rings true. I'd love to bounce like I used to now I have the money to drink from the top shelf.

Don't focus your time, money and energy on cars when you're at uni. You can do that later on when you have a shed and the money to do so. Once a wife and/or family comes along, you can kiss goodbye the uni-esque life forever so in the mean time enjoy it while you can.

Oh, and BigWillieStyles, I don't think we're talking about someone in their mid-20s here. I think you'll find it's late teens ie. 18-19. There's a big difference between the life you live at 19 and the life you live at 26. By 26 you've been out of uni for ~5 years and are well established in your career and probably have some money to burn. At 19 you're probably bare-assed broke and wondering if you should spend this weeks pay on rent and food or a big night out at *insert name of club here*. You probably go with the latter, too.