engineering - VIC

[SIR-JD]

in a GTR the motec still needs the stock ECU to run the attessa system. So as long as your motec is away from the stock ECU and hidden somewhere...say under the passenger seat, then you shouldnt have a problem.

I have also spoken to a motec installer and he said the Motec is the only aftermarket ECU that can be tuned and passed under EPA and ADR's.

i dont see the problem with having an aftermarket ECU providing the Emmissions can be read and that your car passes the emmissions test.

RedR32: yes i have asked EPA directly permision if i tune the MoTeC to standard EPA standards. and i got a simple "no you cant". so i am not sure about keeping the MoTeC in.

regards, jonathan

[PurpleR32]

RedR32: yes i have asked EPA directly permision if i tune the MoTeC to standard EPA standards. and i got a simple "no you cant". so i am not sure about keeping the MoTeC in.

              regards, jonathan

By complying with all ADR's and emmissions laws, and having the correct test performed, you CAN have the Motec passed. That is exactly what a engineer does. they test the car to ensure that it complies with all aspects of road and emmissions law and then issues a certificate stating that fact. otherwise why the fu(k would you bother paying $XXX for an engineer.

I would be calling an Vic Roads authorised engineer and getting an unbiased opinion. not some epa peanut.

[SIR-JD]

By complying with all ADR's and emmissions laws, and having the correct test performed, you CAN have the Motec passed. That is exactly what a engineer does. they test the car to ensure that it complies with all aspects of road and emmissions law and then issues a certificate stating that fact. otherwise why the fu(k would you bother paying $XXX for an engineer.

I would be calling an Vic Roads authorised engineer and getting an unbiased opinion. not some epa peanut.

yeh i think that mite be a good idea, because i do not want to spend all of this money for no reason - i have spent enough as it is.

thanks for the advice.

[SKY031]

aftermarket ECU's are illegal

Really? That's a new one, I haven't heard that before.

There's nothing on the VicRoads website that even hints at aftermarket ECU's being illegal.

[bindolla]

i got mine from protek.

pm me if u want details. sorry just that i've left the cert. in my car....

[slow_r31]

Really? That's a new one, I haven't heard that before.

There's nothing on the VicRoads website that even hints at aftermarket ECU's being illegal.

According to the last enginner I spoke to they are illegal; To the best of my knowledge the reason is that they can be adjusted easily to make them "pass" epa style tests, and changed once you drive out the door. I think this is a case of vicroads illegal vs epa illegal which gets cloudy at times. A vented back into intake BOV will pass vicroads normally, but fail epa because its not factory. I'm not an engineer or vicroads or epa tester, so I can't tell you for certain.

Even if that was not true, the price for an approved emmisions testing is rediculous last time i checked, a simple engineers certificate for 500dollars normally doesn't cover the nessesary emmisions testing that I would imagine would be needed to approve an aftermarket ecu.

ive sent you a pm SIR-JD regarding a possible workaround for the ECU situation.

[SIR-JD]

According to the last enginner I spoke to they are illegal; To the best of my knowledge the reason is that they can be adjusted easily to make them "pass" epa style tests, and changed once you drive out the door. I think this is a case of vicroads illegal vs epa illegal which gets cloudy at times. A vented back into intake BOV will pass vicroads normally, but fail epa because its not factory. I'm not an engineer or vicroads or epa tester, so I can't tell you for certain.

Even if that was not true, the price for an approved emmisions testing is rediculous last time i checked, a simple engineers certificate for 500dollars normally doesn't cover the nessesary emmisions testing that I would imagine would be needed to approve an aftermarket ecu.

ive sent you a pm SIR-JD regarding a possible workaround for the ECU situation.

thanks for that slow_r31 - everyone i have spoken to have told me that the MoTeC is illegal fot the same reason you have said. and no engineer will touch my car unless it is totaly stock. this i do not understand - because people often get aftermarket parts engineered so they are legal on the road??