So.. I'm Getting A R34 Gtr, Need Few Help Pls.

[djvoodoo]

If this is TRUE, you could sue him for FRAUD and actually put him in jail. Looks as though either he has a man on the ground in Japan making fake auction/ dereg certificates, or he is doing it himself after the fact.

This is WORSE than just ODO tampering if this is truth.

**These are only my opinions, and as this is a public forum, my opinion is just that, an opinion, not gospel**

[niZmO_Man]

Not surprising.

After getting your money back, report the dealer license?

[Hadouken]

Oh snap. I wonder if Edward Lee will mention sau in one of his awesome videos again

[The Baron]

to the OP

YOU DO NOT WANT THIS CAR !!!!

Get your money back

Cheers

The Baron

[The Baron]

_{So 3 million yen = $31,000 AUD}

_{10% GST = $3000}

_{Shipping = $1500}

_{Compliance = $5000}

_{total cost to EL = approx $40,000 !!!!!}

_{You paid $55,000 !!!!!}

_{You do the math......}

_Cheers

_{The Baron}

[@ndrew]

If this is TRUE, you could sue him for FRAUD and actually put him in jail. Looks as though either he has a man on the ground in Japan making fake auction/ dereg certificates, or he is doing it himself after the fact.

This is WORSE than just ODO tampering if this is truth.

**These are only my opinions, and as this is a public forum, my opinion is just that, an opinion, not gospel**

Doesn't EL use the buyers agent Nobu?? You see him in the youtube videos, showing of the car right after his purchased them....

In his more recent videos, his been been moving really quickly past the dash so you don't see the ODO!

Disappointed to see MCM endorsing EL!!

[Ben C34]

In the auction sheet from dodgy imports it shows the damage on the left sill in front of the rear wheel which is just visible in this pic from first post., that is obviously not on the questionable sheet.

[The Baron]

In the auction sheet from dodgy imports it shows the damage on the left sill in front of the rear wheel which is just visible in this pic from first post., that is obviously not on the questionable sheet.tmp_post-134006-0-36809100-13967411851639529282.jpg

Which is the kind of damage you get when you graze a kerb while sliding the tail out on a track.......

Cheers

The Baron

[dodgyimports]

_{So 3 million yen = $31,000 AUD}

_{10% GST = $3000}

_{Shipping = $1500}

_{Compliance = $5000}

_{total cost to EL = approx $40,000 !!!!!}

_{You paid $55,000 !!!!!}

_{You do the math......}

_Cheers

_{The Baron}

This calculation misses a few things like customs duties. Use the Import Monster or J-Spec import cost calculator for a better estimate. I would say EL's cost is about $46k max - probably a few grand less if he uses one of his own workshops for the compliance.

Edited April 8, 2014 by dodgyimports

[The Baron]

This calculation misses a few things like customs duties. Use the Import Monster or J-Spec import cost calculator for a better estimate. I would say EL's cost is about $46k max - probably a few grand less if he uses one of his own workshops for the compliance.

correct - but rough estimate - EL would not charge 'themselves' 5 K for compliance and GST is usually at reduced cost (nudge, nudege - wink,wink)

I think 40k is not unrealistic but even your 46K shows how poor this deal is for OP

Cheers

The Baron

[Chris32]

That's dodgy as.

The fake de-reg is the kicker for me, that's fraud. if it was my 50k, I'd be asking for my deposit back in full and reporting them to the relevant people.

[djvoodoo]

Doesn't EL use the buyers agent Nobu?? You see him in the youtube videos, showing of the car right after his purchased them....

In his more recent videos, his been been moving really quickly past the dash so you don't see the ODO!

Disappointed to see MCM endorsing EL!!

You would hope that Nobu or the agent isn't in cahoots with EL, but anything is possible if the $$$ is right. It's entirely possible that all this is happening in Japan post auction/ before shipping, therefor, EL can't get done for ODO tampering in Aus.

[@ndrew]

You would hope that Nobu or the agent isn't in cahoots with EL, but anything is possible if the $$$ is right. It's entirely possible that all this is happening in Japan post auction/ before shipping, therefor, EL can't get done for ODO tampering in Aus.

Bingo!

Doesn't take a genius to figure that out....yet the authorities will probably turn a blind eye.

[Hadouken]

Just give this story to ACA. They love hoons and dodgy importers

[JapaneseOdoCheck]

OP,

Please post up the auction sheet the EL gave you at first.

[Ben C34]

OP,

Please post up the auction sheet the EL gave you at first.

It's in the first post

[JapaneseOdoCheck]

Sorry just saw that now.

Surprised no one noticed how it was missing the VIN number on it.

[Edifier]

Just finish a big big conversation at Edward Lee, huge update, and again, my english is bad, so please ask me if you don't understand anything I said. I will do this in a dot point format so hope it's much clear. Please read to end.

1. I don't buy this car, he will not sell this car to me.

2. He didn't refused to returned the deposit but he keep dodging the topic so I think if I force him to return the deposit or decided to go ACA or fair trading like many of you said there will be further turble like: #1. he will get a million reasons why I cannot get my deposit back #2. it may take forever to get my deposit via fair trading (I tried fiar trading befor and it took 2 years to get my bond back for the room I rent back when i was in university which was only $1200 AUD.) #3. Please put yourself in this situation and you really think yalling words like f**k f**k f**k and f**k in his car yard gonna help me get my money back? It's really harder to do than just saying, I'm really scared if I make things ugly with him I will never get my money back.

3. he is going to import another car for me and here is the condition:

#1, I will involve in every step of the process

#2, I choose the car, not him anymore I will use the website he uses called 4wheelers if I remembered it right.

#3, he have to provide the de-reg paper of the car.

#4, I get to inspect the car at JLM before I pay off the car.

#5, I made thoes conditions so whatever I say now he will say yes as long as I still do business with him.

4. Just talked to Japanese odometer check, he still think the codition is not good enough and I should take my money back and go to iron shef. So I will go talk to Phil Lee tomorrow. Because I trust JOC more obvioursly.

5. I always know I should go away, and I always know you guys are right. I am just too scared and too worry of not getting my 11k deposit back. Not that I don't trust you guys!

6. Any of you guys think a nice way to say? I don't want threaten and I know if I do he will make sure that I suffer more than he does.

7. I didn't make the thing I'm scared about clear, so I just added this one, I'm scared and worry about that he knows where I live, what I do for living, my phone and other personal informations. I mean If I made him loss his business, G.O.D knows what will he do to me.

Edited April 8, 2014 by Edifier

[nashy311]

Sorry just saw that now.

Surprised no one noticed how it was missing the VIN number on it.

Was just about to point that out! And the supplied de-reg papers look legit. 60k in 2010, 80k in 2012 = about 100k in 2014.

10k per year so who knows how many were on original dash.

All dodgyness aside, grade 4, 100k, at around $40-45k it's not a bad buy.

[Edifier]

Was just about to point that out! And the supplied de-reg papers look legit. 60k in 2010, 80k in 2012 = about 100k in 2014.

10k per year so who knows how many were on original dash.

All dodgyness aside, grade 4, 100k, at around $40-45k it's not a bad buy.

Yes, grade 4, 100k $45k is not a bad buy, but I want something better. My budget is below 70k anyway.