R33 Gtst Upgrades Advice Please

[ryanh2512]

hey guys and girls. I've currently owned my nissan for just over a year and have loved every minute of being in it though it has now came to the stage where i want some more power.

i live near cairns and there doesn't seem to be many people around here with the interest of doing some work for me. is there any where in cairns that someone has previously used to get work done? if so, where?

i have been quoted by SVS for some work, i would like an Apexi Power FC ECU, high flow turbo service and a simple tune done but he has priced me $5000 straight away. that seems a bit steep for such small upgrades is it not?

any help would be great

cheers

[89CAL]

That really depends what is actually involved

If its just a High flow turbo bolted in, a Power FC and a tune then its probably on the expensive side, but if they are going to fit injectors or anything else like that then ints probably O.K

It's hard to really say if its a good price because we dont know what turbo they are fitting and where they are getting the Power FC from and stuff like that

[GTSBoy]

And you would not fit a high flow without doing injectors and fuel pump, and probably an AFM as well anyway.

[KiwiRS4T]

There's probably more to come. Is your car dead stock? You'll need a FMIC and better exhaust as well. An initial tune with new turbo, new afm and injectors etc will not be a simple tune but will take time to do properly. To soften the blow you could plan the upgrade and try to acquire all the gear yourself as cheaply as possible. Then get a price for the install and tune.

[ryanh2512]

its not totally standard, i already have a bigger FMIC and have a 3 inch Zeigen system already fitted. As far as I'm aware its the stock turbo thats getting machined out and braided oil line etc too.

ill look into it more but thanks anyway for sharing your thoughts. i guess i do want to change to a bigger turbo, but that take its from being a smaller >&5000 job to anywhere over &10k!

[GTSBoy]

Hypergear highflow ~$1000. Fuel pump ~$200. Injectors ~$700. AFM ~$300. Fitting all that lot only ~$200. PFC ~$1000. Tuning ~$800.

Even allowing for some decent profit margin you're only at the $5000 region for what you want. But not if it doesn't include the things on my list.

[75coupe]

If you really want to upgrade your power you need to educate yourself so that you can answer your own question of "is this too much to pay?"

If you read sau youll find lots of options to modify for more power and not all options start at $5k...

[Sinista32]

I believe labour for fitting would be closer to $500 - $1000.

Would you Nistune rather than PFC ? $1400 (for board and tune).

That would also be obtaining your own parts and providing to your shop ^

(reducing the shops margin)

[ryanh2512]

yeah i do plan on spending some time on this site to try and educate myself a bit better. i know the basics but I'm eager to learn in more detail.

i have no problem paying $5000 but i don't want to continue modifying my car and getting ripped off every time. i think i will source my own parts for this early stage of modifying. save some money now to put it back into it later on would be the smarter approach!

again thank you all for your help! very much appreciated!

[Badgaz]

where are you located ryan?

[Badgaz]

I believe labour for fitting would be closer to $500 - $1000.

Would you Nistune rather than PFC ? $1400 (for board and tune).

That would also be obtaining your own parts and providing to your shop ^

(reducing the shops margin)

nistune for r33 ...don't forget he'll need to buy ideally the z32 ECU as well.

[GTSBoy]

I believe labour for fitting would be closer to $500 - $1000.

Valid point. I wasn't thinking about the turbo when I was thinking how much to fit the rest of the stuff. Literally only take a couple of hours to fit the rest of the stuff though, so it wouldn't want to be expensive. The turbo will obviously add a few extra hours.

Still only in the $5k range though.

[Blackkers]

unfortunately it's often more cost effective to sell a stockish car and buy something quicker. Rather than spend money that you'll never see again. Having said that if you love the car then by all means go for it

[SkudR33]

Or do it yourself... I've been modifying my car for over 2 years now... 80% of the work is done by me and I'm not a qualified mechanic. This forums provides amazing DIY tutorials and you can also search on google and YouTube. There is also a copy of the service workshop manual floating around that provides you with detailed steps.

Speak to your tuner about the combination of parts you need, fit them yourself, then get it tuned.

[Badgaz]

i asked you where you are because if you are in auckland/waikato nz i don't mind helping out.

[ryanh2512]

i asked you where you are because if you are in auckland/waikato nz i don't mind helping out.

I'm from cairns mate. i appreciate your offer greatly though thanks!

I've started looking for my own parts, going to start with the following

550cc NISMO injectors

z32 AFM

Apexi Power FC ecu (can't seem to find any other than the ones on Ebay at $1400, is there any benefit of buying it without the hand controller?)

Hypergear High flow service (seen a lot of good reviews for this place)

also thinking about doing a clutch whilst I'm getting some work done, any recommendations?

[5ky-lin3]

You will need a better fuel pump to as it is one of the first restrictions.

Boost control T also which costs only a few bob

[GeorgesR34]

$5G is pretty alright. Below is what I've spent with my R34, I did all the work my self.

Split fire coil packs: $650

650cc Jecs injectors: $500

Walbro fuel pump: $210

Adaptronic plug in ecu and hypergear bolton turbo bundle: $2400

GKteck cooler kit: $400

Total: $4160

Dyno tune was $650 on top. Car made 285rwkws on 20psi.

P.s: about $100 worth of silicon hoses and a pod for a 3inch hard intake pipe.

Edited May 19, 2014 by GeorgesR34

[ryanh2512]

$5G is pretty alright. Below is what I've spent with my R34, I did all the work my self.

Split fire coil packs: $650

650cc Jecs injectors: $500

Walbro fuel pump: $210

Adaptronic plug in ecu and hypergear bolton turbo bundle: $2400

GKteck cooler kit: $400

Total: $4160

Dyno tune was $650 on top. Car made 285rwkws on 20psi.

P.s: about $100 worth of silicon hoses and a pod for a 3inch hard intake pipe.

that sounds aright! i must look into these DIY videos, worth a watch i think.

have looked at walbro pumps too, forgot to mention. what benefits/disadvantages would i get from going to even bigger injectors?

i thought 550cc would be enough no?

[Badgaz]

completely depends on how far you want to go with your car and what you want to do with it.