Emrarrr Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 Hey I just bought another Skyline- an R33 Series 2 Mspec manual for very cheap (even suspiciously too cheap) due to un ergo, hole in exhaust (came with new full stainless steel one), misfire at boost problem which they said prob coil packs and interior dash lights and indicators don't work. Picked it up tonight and of course as was cheap I figured there will be a fair few problems I would need to sort out which is of course to be expected. Drives great except splutters and chokes itself under boost. So far all the intake pipes and throttle body are absolutely filthy and it stinks like contaminated oil where the throttle body connects and the a lot of the hoses are bad and cracking which is all fine I can deal with that but what worries me is this- Every single spark plug hole has heaps of brown sludge and water in there a decent amount as well! The coil packs look like ass so of course will replace those and the spark plugs. Firstly, what is the best way to get the water and crap out before I pull the plugs? And does the sludge and crap sound like a head gasket??? Please tell me there is something else it could be! I will take some pics soon! Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks Em Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/443713-water-brown-sludge-etc-in-spark-plug-holes/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
xALmoN Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 you might have something worse than just water in the oil. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/443713-water-brown-sludge-etc-in-spark-plug-holes/#findComment-7296021 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emrarrr Posted May 27, 2014 Author Share Posted May 27, 2014 I pulled the spark plugs and there is no water or oil or anything down there so that's good right? It seems like water accumulated on top as there was mouse crap too and a cockroach leg lol but yeah nothing under spark plugs Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/443713-water-brown-sludge-etc-in-spark-plug-holes/#findComment-7296028 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emrarrr Posted May 27, 2014 Author Share Posted May 27, 2014 as for how the sludge got there...rusty water plus maybe leaking rocker cover gasket? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/443713-water-brown-sludge-etc-in-spark-plug-holes/#findComment-7296029 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trex Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 Leaking covers. And possible engine bath before you bought it? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/443713-water-brown-sludge-etc-in-spark-plug-holes/#findComment-7296053 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben C34 Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 You are in for a steep learning curve with this one. 2 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/443713-water-brown-sludge-etc-in-spark-plug-holes/#findComment-7296060 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinista32 Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 (edited) Clean up the entire engine bay and vehicle. Have a really good look over it, - Decide if it is worth spending effort and money on Are the chassis rails straight, any rust, steering components, tyre wear, brakes, oil/water/air leaks, lights What info did the previous owner give you? Have you done a fast and revs check? If keeping Give it a major service including a good engine flush (Liquid Molly or Wurths). All fluids, plugs, filters Did you get any service records with it? When were the belts done including timing belt then go through and list all the remaining obvious issues standing still, then take it for a drive and list any running issues. get an idea of parts and prices (does it scare you?) if not attack them methodically/logically What aftermarket mods including ECU? For the In cabin, dash lights and indicators - verify all fuses and relays Sludge is from leaking covers and water laying around Being a 96 33 GTS-t I expect your young and your budget is minimal As you said there is a reason some cars are cheap. Some times you can get a gem that just hasn't been maintained Edited May 27, 2014 by Sinista32 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/443713-water-brown-sludge-etc-in-spark-plug-holes/#findComment-7296102 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emrarrr Posted May 28, 2014 Author Share Posted May 28, 2014 Hey Sinista, Thanks for the info! Haha yes student at the moment so relatively tight budget but all my money ends up going on the cars so if it needs to be fixed it will usually be done! Have a service history with log book etc it came over from NSW so have the dates for belt etc. Chassis is nice and straight surprisingly minimal rust it's quite clean. I managed to replace spark plugs but its going to need new coil packs considering they were submerged in water and muck. I use liquid moly on all my cars so will be putting some of that through. I don't like the BOV I want to remove that for now and just put it back to stock as will need it for pits anyway. Ran OBD no codes which is boring, other parameters seem good but not relying on that! Coolant system seems good but will flush anyway, oil looks good etc. the car was sitting for about a year only driven every month or so. Mods are basic just the crappy rusty looking blitz BOV, boost tee (not a fan will be removing that), HKS rear muffler, cusco strut braces, apexi air intake, aftermarket suspension- mainly cosmetic. Since cleaning throttle body and pipes the car will start straight away idle for a second and die. Going to have to see if I put a hose on the wrong way or something- could mega vac leaks cause that?? A lot of the hoses are suspicious!! I will take some photos now of how the BOV and boost tee have been set up its all weird to me as my other one was completely stock. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/443713-water-brown-sludge-etc-in-spark-plug-holes/#findComment-7296293 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emrarrr Posted May 28, 2014 Author Share Posted May 28, 2014 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/443713-water-brown-sludge-etc-in-spark-plug-holes/#findComment-7296297 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emrarrr Posted May 28, 2014 Author Share Posted May 28, 2014 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/443713-water-brown-sludge-etc-in-spark-plug-holes/#findComment-7296301 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emrarrr Posted May 28, 2014 Author Share Posted May 28, 2014 It had some sort of bath! Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/443713-water-brown-sludge-etc-in-spark-plug-holes/#findComment-7296305 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinista32 Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 Doesn't look to shabby and sounds like you know what your doing Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/443713-water-brown-sludge-etc-in-spark-plug-holes/#findComment-7296373 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad082 Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 Sludge around the spark plugs simply means it's had an engine degrease by someone who was rather happy with the hose. This has screwed the plugs and coils. New coils and plugs and it will probably run well. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/443713-water-brown-sludge-etc-in-spark-plug-holes/#findComment-7296496 Share on other sites More sharing options...
89CAL Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 Sludge around the spark plugs simply means it's had an engine degrease by someone who was rather happy with the hose. This has screwed the plugs and coils. New coils and plugs and it will probably run well.Exactly what I was thinking. Quite possibly had the valley cover off while cleaning and have since put it back on. Does look pretty nice for a cheap one, series 2 as well so if its just coilpacks and plugs that need replacing id be more than happy with that Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/443713-water-brown-sludge-etc-in-spark-plug-holes/#findComment-7297839 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emrarrr Posted May 30, 2014 Author Share Posted May 30, 2014 Thanks I reckon she is pretty hot it's worth more but he had too many cars and a newborn so he just needed it gone. Good thinking guys! I found out it was actually a degrease! Why wouldn't u cover up that area though? It's driving so much better and haven't even replaced coil packs or exhaust yet! Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/443713-water-brown-sludge-etc-in-spark-plug-holes/#findComment-7298133 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emrarrr Posted June 3, 2014 Author Share Posted June 3, 2014 Update: I have noticed it has a unichip piggy back ecu, is it likely this is causing the misfire under boost??? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/443713-water-brown-sludge-etc-in-spark-plug-holes/#findComment-7301868 Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty nm35 Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Unichip? I would bin it, or at least get it on a dyno and see what's happening. 1 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/443713-water-brown-sludge-etc-in-spark-plug-holes/#findComment-7301869 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emrarrr Posted June 3, 2014 Author Share Posted June 3, 2014 lol scotty yeah I want to get rid of it, don't want to really waste a tune on it. I figure I will have the work out which wires have been spliced or cut and put them back into my stock ecu? ugh annoying Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/443713-water-brown-sludge-etc-in-spark-plug-holes/#findComment-7301895 Share on other sites More sharing options...
89CAL Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 If the car is basically stock and you don't want to spend money on tuning, I'd just throw a standard ECU in it Then if you decide you want more power, can choose a good ECU and get a tune done Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/443713-water-brown-sludge-etc-in-spark-plug-holes/#findComment-7303490 Share on other sites More sharing options...
533 RYC Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 Unichip are junk. I've seen them loose memory & hey presto, car won't start. Nice pick up Em! Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/443713-water-brown-sludge-etc-in-spark-plug-holes/#findComment-7304816 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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