From A 290Rwkw R34Gtt To An Evo 7-9

[Lolrick]

I'm actually in the potential Skyline to Evo camp - but not by choice! I just had my perfect R34 GT-T stolen, and I feel despair at procuring and then modding/touching up another R34... especially as i feel that there are no 'nice' ones currently on the market (NSW/Sydney metro area). I loved having the boost hit hard, and i loved the RWD, which is why I may consider an S15 - but they just feel like a girls car compared to what i was in previously. Considering it's a daily, too, (4 doors, not particularly low suspension) I think a slightly newer Evo around the $20k mark may bring me more joy if I can't find a suitable Skyline (It would have to be perfect and a bargain for me to go interstate/import myself).

[discopotato03]

The only way to solve the Evo Skyline debacle is to buy one of each and see which one you spend the most time in . My bet is the Skyline will do more miles but you won't want to part with the Evo ...

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[Dose Pipe Sutututu]

The only way to solve the Evo Skyline debacle is to buy one of each and see which one you spend the most time in . My bet is the Skyline will do more miles but you won't want to part with the Evo ...

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More maintenance with the EVO you constabtly need to flush out the AYC pump and bleed it to keep it happy.

So you'll tend to drive the EVO less, the Skyline however is like a camel runs on barely anything and keeps on going thus you'll prefer to drive that more and most importantly the Skyline has a larger fuel tank.

[rondofj]

One thing I like about the EVO is how small and easy the engine bay is to work on - injectors, turbo, piping all looks easier to do than a large RB25 with its cross-over pipe and general engine layout etc..

But it does look like a pumped-up lancer in n out, its huge wing and nasty engine note screams I'm rice! haha..

[discopotato03]

You can ditch the AYC for the RS mechanically simpler lighter stronger mechanical LSD . Just keep the pump for the ACD in 7/8/9 . The Americans cry because USDM 8s and 9s only got the non active centre and rear diffs . I think they did get RS model 8s and 9s with mechanical rear LSds , don't know what their GSRs got probably viscous rear .

Funny actually , Mitsy turned the LSD plates around in their RS cars so they basically don't work . If they don't chatter they don't attract complaints in dealerships .

9s got a larger fuel tank and possibly some 8s as well . 4/5/6 were Grp A homologation models and they were trying to keep them light , racers no doubt used a fuel cell anyway .

The 7s just saw a dabble in WRC class but they gave up trying to compete with the kit cars WRC rules allowed . GT4 in a Corolla anyone ?

WRC killed off production based Rally cars just like "Nascar" here killed off production based tarmac racing in Grp A .

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[XGTRX]

WRC killed off production based Rally cars just like "Nascar" here killed off production based tarmac racing in Grp A .

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Sad really.

[discopotato03]

The manufacturers loved it because they never made money out of the special production cars anyway . Not so good for petrol heads .

It allowed the change to Bogun spec-tater racing because beer swilling knuckle abuser isn't interested in the details , it looks like his Falcadore so as long as its wiping its arse over the neighbours heap of shit he can hold his head high above the pie all down his chest .

Tater money is what finances this "motorsport" and without money all motorsport stalls .

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[XGTRX]

But wouldn't you say it had some reverse effect too. With the global group A racing wouldn't a an enthusiast be more inclined to buy a up-spec model knowing it had the DNA of those on the track? Rather than the V8 supercars and NASCAR where the enthusiast knows has nothing in common with the consumer product? Just thinking out aloud here.

[zebra]

Waiting for someone to say the gtr was banned. ..

As much as I love group A cars....have any of you watched the racing? It was boring as bat shit in the end.

The fia pulled the pin on group A. So we needed a touring car series.....what should they have done instead?

[stig0000]

I have a evo 8 with about 250kw, very qwick responsive car, my gtr is faster in a strate line tho around a track, im sure the evo would win, oh its for sale aswell? the evos are a great car tho, i just cant keep both

[XGTRX]

Waiting for someone to say the gtr was banned. ..

As much as I love group A cars....have any of you watched the racing? It was boring as bat shit in the end.

The fia pulled the pin on group A. So we needed a touring car series.....what should they have done instead?

True to a point. The sierras started the downward spiral. However I do have fond memories of the group A. However in saying that it was awesome seeing the volvos, bmw, nissans, jags , holdens and Ford's rubbing shoulders. And the advantages each had on different tracks.. I think with better management it could have worked and thrived. Maybe

[GTScotT]

One thing I like about the EVO is how small and easy the engine bay is to work on - injectors, turbo, piping all looks easier to do than a large RB25 with its cross-over pipe and general engine layout etc..

Not true.

Having built one from the ground up and changed clutches, timing belts and turbos on a dozen others I can definitely say they are NOT as nice and easy to work on as the old Skyline is. You are in for a world of butt pain if this is a deciding factor in buying the said EVO.

Anyway, your motives are as clear as mud and this thread puts the imagine of a peacock into my mind. A peacock standing on the roof of a skyline showing its EVO colours.. Just do the poor skyline some justice and sell it to someone who will actually drive it. Once you get the EVO you can go as far as removing the wing if it gets in the way of your shopping, etc.

I say this with love <3

[rondofj]

Lancer Evolutions should be called Rice-car Evolution.

[scotty nm35]

I can't wait, it's been 2 years and I am yet to drive it. Hopefully the transfer case lasts the drive home at least.

[GTScotT]

Lancer Evolutions should be called Rice-car Evolution.

Oh so you are back to being Skyline man again? Come out and lets go race our 290kw Nissans! Pick a 3 lane road at least though as mine takes up 2 in the first 3 gears.

I can't wait, it's been 2 years and I am yet to drive it. Hopefully the transfer case lasts the drive home at least.

Looks like a weapon! I hate EVO transfer cases with a passion Particularly the later ones, the bearings seem to be made of bluetac.

[Count Grantleyish]

I can't wait, it's been 2 years and I am yet to drive it. Hopefully the transfer case lasts the drive home at least.

That thing actually exists.

[discopotato03]

Bogun racing out here consisted of people who could not believe that the big Aussie Ate Olden or Ford were so out classed by the other brands . Nissan and Ford Sierras were living proof that cars with shitty little ingines and shellas hair dryers were blitzing their big dick extensions . Hence the bull shit bull shit at the mountain back in 92 (beerish for bo gun bo gun) ..

Production based racers are a double edged sword because mainstream models that make manufacturers money are not race like at all . The vast majority don't like cars with race traits because they are not comfortable easy relaxing things to drive . Most tarted up performance cars today are "sporty" rather than sporting - there is a difference and the GTt Evo thing is a good example .

Lets say you get the best standard sport spec Gtt and then grab the equivalent era Evo and go belt them around Mt Panorama . They have on paper the same power (206 Kw) and probably similar weight , Gtt possibly a bit heravier than a 6 GSR . Assuming the same driver and the same conditions I think the 6 would lap faster than the Gtt on the same tyres . I reckon the Gtt would cook up faster than the 6 because of its more modest intercooling and oil cooling . The Gtt would be harder on its tyres and the 6 I reckon would go a lot deeper under brakes because they are larger .

So there you go , one is a tamed down rally basis and the other is a warmed up road car .

More people would prefer the Gtt as a daily road car because that's what it was designed to be . I think more honest track day users would prefer the Evo because that's more towards its intended purpose . I'm sorry if this offends but serious drivers who are focused totally on performance and handling prefer cars like Evos because the comfort compromises are an annoyance to them . They are bent on pure function and a small minority amongst all road users .

The hectic skids and using more than one lane to aim the boat down the river is something else again , Evos aren't as good at that and if its important auto V8 barges probably do it best .

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[Dose Pipe Sutututu]

^ well said

but then there are the best of both worlds in a C63 AMG, E63 AMG, etc.. of course you could buy 15 GT-t with that money or 30 with the latter vehicle.

[discopotato03]

For what you buy an Evo or GTt for they are better value for money than more current exotics . The average person isn't even going to consider the above .

[Dose Pipe Sutututu]

For what you buy an Evo or GTt for they are better value for money than more current exotics . The average person isn't even going to consider the above .

yup, another reason I own a R33 GTS-t with rust and 500000+ kms with a dash that says 143000km LOL

Wonder which dealer hairdressed the car