R34 Vs R35 - Not School Holidays Yet, This Is Not What You Think.

[thewayweroll]

Having owned in the past 8 years 911/997,S15,370z,R35,R34 x 3 ,GTR32, For a weekender not daily at 40 plus I love the rawness of a 300kw + R34 .

[Anfanee]

Oh also as per your original post. Don't put a 3L bottom end in it they sound like shit, and completely ruin the best thing about an RB26 (the engine note) it also isn't required for 300-400kw.

-5's and E85

Job done.

[Ben C34]

Lol at sound shit!

[Anfanee]

Fk it -7's make that kind of power on 98 let alone E85 as well.

[No Crust Racing]

No 3L? That torque though...

[Anfanee]

Seriously they sound like dog shit. Don't put 3L in it if you only want 300-400kw. The cost to do it for what you want is nowhere near worth it.

And whatever you do don't stroke the original motor in a vspec. Keep the motor standard specs and go from there.

-9's, -5's, -7's will all make it in the power range you want. -5's will be the higher of the range.

Have you even been in a properly setup GTR?

[No Crust Racing]

How can you be a purist about displacement but be fine swapping out turbos, exhaust, injectors and ECUs lol

I owned basic bolt on R33, nismo suspension, R34 turbos, tuned etc, been around DECA in Ash's 33 and in that Black 34, TPMGTR or TOPGTR or something like that on the plates.

Loved them all.

Edited October 21, 2014 by ActionDan

[Anfanee]

How can you be a purist about displacement but be fine dealing it turbos, exhaust, injectors and ECUs lol

I owned basic bolt on R33, nismo suspension, R34 turbos, tuned etc, been around DECA in Ash's 33 and in that Black 34, TPMGTR or TOPGTR or something like that on the plates.

Loved them all.

at 300-400kw the extra displacement isn't needed. Why make your car sound like shit if it isn't needed?

500+KW? Sure go for it but for 300-400 it isn't needed.

Fark my little -7's make 320awkw on 98 (E85 TBA in the next couple of weeks)

[Anfanee]

Also that way it looks stock from the outside

[No Crust Racing]

Fair enough. My 33 was my most fav engine sound I must admit.

[XKLABA]

at 300-400kw the extra displacement isn't needed. Why make your car sound like shit if it isn't needed?

500+KW? Sure go for it but for 300-400 it isn't needed.

Fark my little -7's make 320awkw on 98 (E85 TBA in the next couple of weeks)

I don't think my 34 sounds like shit , but then I can't hear the exhaust at full boost any way so makes no difference to me

"Needed" is a subjective word, do you "need" 300-400kw or "need" to modify a GTR at all for that matter, it's all 100% about want

Also that way it looks stock from the outside

What's funny is if you and I where pulled over together and they opened both our bonnets I'm getting let go first cause my 450+kw 3.0 "looks" less modified

[sneakey pete]

Well technically you don't "need" a 30 block for any power, even stupid 1000hp turbos will still make power on a 26. They'll just make power sooner on a 30. Honestly if I was going for -5's, (meaning I would be going for above 400kw's after all, if you're not getting 100% out of the turbos why not use smaller turbos) I'd be doing for a '30 bottom end because honestly some of the power curves around for them on 26's don't look that impressive from an area under the curve aspect.

[Nismo 3.2ish]

I will go this Mick on this. I am building my car to what I "want" but I do "need" it to make me happy. If blokes love the sound and happy with how your car goes , that is great

I have never driven a Factory R34GTR , so I have no idea how they drive, love the sound.

When I bought my car the motor was worked, forged pistons and everything else in there, I would just have to add a big new tech turbo/s and cams I am sure I could have reached some impressive Dyno results, but you cannot drive the High HP Dyno results as a DD and I hated my peaky 338awkw R34GTR , did a little work and at 345awkw for response it was a car you could drive as a DD and I dare say , much faster than the extra 7awkw would imply.

I "want" more response with the torque the 3.2 will give me, so RB30 with a Nitto 3.2Lt to get it and really could not care how it sounds, as long as it drives the way I want.

What do think would happen with a Torquey 450awkw (610awhp) with a RB30 bottom , 3.2 stroker and built for response would go against a 610awhp peaky build , equal drivers , what car would win ??

[No Crust Racing]

Whichever one I'm driving.

[sinistaGTR]

Ok just to update, I have just finished my tune after my build (2.6). Retains twins, drives like factory and made 454kw on e85..... (610hp).

Its responsive and nice to drive.

Again would happily own a 35, but maintenance costs are the issue atm

[No Crust Racing]

Pump E85 with flex fuel sensor or drums?

What turbos?

Post a graph.

Edited October 29, 2014 by ActionDan

[sinistaGTR]

United pump E85, haltech with Flex setup, HKS 25/30s with 24psi

[No Crust Racing]

Would be good to see a comparison with a 3L for area under the curve.

What was the batch of fuel like on that run content wise?

[Nismo 3.2ish]

Whichever one I'm driving.

haha, good one but you have to stop being so shy

[Nismo 3.2ish]

Ok just to update, I have just finished my tune after my build (2.6). Retains twins, drives like factory and made 454kw on e85..... (610hp).

Its responsive and nice to drive.

Again would happily own a 35, but maintenance costs are the issue atm

IS your build on SAU , I would like to see it